NYBakers/Norm's Book - Recipe Tests

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Those of us who have volunteered to test recipes for Norm's book have received our first recipes. We have been asked to not share the recipes, naturally, but Stan has told me it's okay to post photos. It's a bit of a tease, I know, but, from another perspective, it's publicity for a much-anticipated project of two esteemed TFL members.

For those other recipe testers willing to share their own results, I propose using this topic to collect photos of your breads/pastries/cookies in one place.

My first recipe was for "Bakery Pan Challah." It is sinfully delicious fresh baked and as toast this morning, with butter and cherry-plum jam. I'm betting it will make fabulous French toast tomorrow morning, as well. 

Here are some photos:

Loaf

Slices

Crumb

David

Makes feel better baking hamburger and hot dog bun on a beautiful Saturday morning in paradise!! There is always the next loaf, boule, batard, or baguette to go onto!

Aloha,

Royall

PS. Good photos!

I'll follow suit with my test of the Honey WW Challah. It was "outrageous good" according to my teenage daughter.

Beautiful challah, Eric.

My wife, who doesn't care for challah generally, pronounced this one's flavor as "magnificent."

We're going to run out of superlatives before Norm runs out of recipes, I fear.

David

This was my first Challah (see the last post). I did pinch both ends, but they didn't hold. Do you tuck the ends under to get that more finished look?

Betty

I almost would not have cared if it was good or not, I'd want one just to look at! Beautiful job!

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Another Gorgeous Challah...and the photos speak for themselves! 

Sylvia

Only a bread baker by choice, but here's my effort at the sweet yeast Fruit Filled Buns (Apricot)...

 

 

Nice job, ryeaskrye! The buns looks delicious.

I can see we have more treats in store. (As expected.)

David

Would you share the recipe for the dough on your Hungarian walnut rolls?  I want to make some of them for Christmas and have lost my mother's old recipe years and years ago (she passed away in 2001).  I can remember how to make the walnut filling and the poppyseed filling but cannot recall the proportions for the dough itself.

The recipes in this topic were being tested for a new book which we are told will be released next Spring.

The recipe testers have pledged to not make the recipes public.

When the book is available, you can be sure it will be conspicuously announced on TFL.

David

David is correct. these were test recipes for an upcoming book. We testers are sworn to secrecy. Official handshake and everything.

However, you could always send Norm and Stan a PM and see if they might be willing to help.

This is killing me. It's obvious that the recipes being tested for the NY Jewish Bakers book are going to be terrific. Each one of the posted test bakes are beautiful. I can hardly wait for the next batch.

Eric

For the new book once it's published.... everything looks fabulous!!  I like the idea of the challah loaf in the pan, bet that would make the best french toast ever.

Good call, Franchiello! I had some of the challah as French toast this morning. It was, indeed, "the best french toast ever."

BTW, my family always made French toast with challah. We ate it with powdered sugar and sour cream, never with syrup. I suspected this choice was derived from how we ate cheese blintzes - with jam and sour cream.

David

Hi-

This challah is beautiful! Can you please give me instructions for braiding like this? How many strands is it? I appreciate it!

Beth

Toast

If it will make my breads look like these pictures, sign me up for an advance copy!!

I'm not usually a pastry eater or baker, but enjoyed the Hungarian Walnut Roll. So did our next-door neighbors, who said they had to eat multiple pieces each just to make sure that it really was as delicious as it seemed. It was. 

This is my virgin experience with these: 

I'm not sure if these look right

Mini

...I'll take the low road! haha - oh well, at least they tasted good! And I'd better keep on joggin' right down that low road until I work off that butter!

PS: I was going to excuse my clumsy effort on the grounds that I had never made or heard of hamentashen until now...but since this is your first batch too, I'd better just blush and say nothin'!

PPS: FABULOUS looking bakes, folks!

Here is the photo of my hamantashen - definitely not as good looking as yours, but my my neighbor (a Jewish New Yorker) tasted one of them and said they were THE best she's ever had (I don't believe her, but understand she wanted to compliment my efforts!)

 

anyway, here is the photo, they are truly delicious, and I was also a hamantashen virgin  until this weekend!

FYI, Hamentashen are traditionally made with either a yeasted sweet dough or a cookie dough. You made the cookie type, which seems to be more common these days. I have to say, yours (and all the others) look better than what appears in most bakeries, at least on this Coast.

David

We've been munching on this for a couple of days now (I baked on Friday) and I've gotta say, it's getting better with age! (I'm a little surprised). I'm keeping it in a plastic bag on the counter (ambient temp ~ 65 - 70 degrees) and todays' was the best yet. The filling's flavor is mellowing and the lemon is coming through more prominently; the crumb is moister than on the first day (moisture transfer from the filling?) and the crust is holding steady. Just something for Stan that I didn't put in the eval form!

I noticed too that it is tasting better with age. Also, since I posted I've had the chance to test it on some some neighbors and everyone loved it.

Toast

Everything looks delicious! You guys are doing a great job teting the recipes, I will buy the book for sure! I wish I could join you guys, but I am set to be out of town for most of August...

I'm so jealous of ya'll making those gorgeous breads! I got coconut macaroons, which my family won't like as they don't like coconut or macaroons. I'm still going to bake them of course. Man, this week has flown by and I haven't even tried my brand new oven yet!

Moving into the rebuilt house. Have about 1/3 of the 558 boxes left to unpack!

I can't wait for the book! I love Norm's onion roll recipe, as many here do, and I've missed him around here at TFL. All of your bakes really look wonderful. When the book does become available I'll hopefully be done with the repair/remodeling nightmares so I can get into the kitchen with exuberance.

Congrats all, and Bake on!....

Dosi

Hello all,

Just baked Week #2 Bread - Potato Bread.  Don't know if it is ok or not - never baked it before.  I went by Stan's remark - bake until "dark crust AND most importantly my wife and I both like it.  Any comment would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Photo from last week - Sourdough Challah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is really a lot of fun ... can't wait to see others photos ...

Ben

 

 

 

 

 

 

One more Sourdough Challah. My version took a slight deviation. After retarding the dough overnight I thought I had a dud, no rise what-so-ever. I left it in the fridge where it got pushed to the back for 4 days. After work last night, I decided I really should dump it and low and behold it had doubled! So today I baked it off thinking it was never going to rise and taste horrid. It was just fine..excellent rise, good taste. Sometimes it's really hard to screw up a good thing!

My braiding needs some work. I have another sponge ready to go and will see if I can get this baked in a more timely manner.

Betty

When is smell-o-vision coming? I just know the aroma is a killer!

Can't wait for my our turn to bake these..sigh

Betty

In contrast to Betty, I'm relieved I can't smell those onion pockets. I'd totally loose control. They look soooooo good!

David

This was my first recipe to test for Norm & Stan and it was a great way to start this project.  Everything turned out great and it was a lot of fun.  I did cheat a bit.  The braiding instructions confused me, doesn't take much, so my Wife did the braiding ad I tagged my son to do the photography.

 

Top

Bottom (just for fun)

Crumb

 

I'm looking forward to testing some great recipies.

Dwayne

Dwayne,

Your challah is beautiful - very nice egg wash got you great color.  I agree with the "team" effort component - tell your wife the braiding is terrific and your son the photos look professional - and the team captain did a fine job tool. 

I am finding seeing, and sharing, with others really to be the best part of this effort.

Ben

Your challah looks wonderful, Dwayne.

The way I see it, the good baker is resourceful, and you are to commended for drawing on the resources available for braiding and photography.

David

I've never seen potatonik .... I won't go on with the rest of the poem.

Anyway, I have no idea whether the one I made is a good example or not. 

In the pan

Crumb (?)

David

David,

Let me begin by saying nice photos - I have never heard of potatoniks either.  The criteria I always apply first is "does it taste good?" - all else is just opinion.

Ben

Mine looks very similar. The smell was amazing however I didn't care for the flavour.

 

To be fair it was stated to eat with apple sauce and sour cream, we did not.

I always thought of Swiss rösti as grown up potato latkes. Potatonik seems to be some mutant version.

It smelled wonderful baking, but I didn't care for the texture. Since I have never had this dish before, I have no way of knowing if mine was characteristic or a user error.

I hope Stan & Norm assigned Potatonik to at least one person familiar with it. I'd be interested in his or her assessment.

David

I never even heard of Potatonik until I saw the recipe in Greenstein. I liked the funny story he told about it, but never made the recipe. So, mine is the first and, so far, the only Potatonik I've ever seen.

I never knew my paternal grandmother. She passed away before I was born. My maternal grandmother probably made potato kugel. I have no memory of it. Her specialty was a savory lockshin kugel with ground beef and lots of schmaltz. But no Potatonik.

David

 

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David,

Never heard of it (read Greenstein, after the fact)

baked it (substituted redskin potatoes; our favorite)

liked the flavor

didn't like the texture

looked nearly identical to yours

no photo 'cause we took it to a dinner party: it went fast

going to do it once more with recipe directed potatoes

David G

If nothing else the recipe offers a wonderful new nickname for the couch potatoes in our lives....

The good news on the spud front is the Polish Potato Bread recipe.  It could be the ultimate PB&J sandwich bread.  Yum.

 

 

Another 'blind' bake! I've never heard of Honeymoon cookies, and this time I couldn't even identify anything like them via googling. So, dunno how to grade these - although I suspect they're not the best-lookin' batch in the known universe! Eating quality? Again, not sure what they're supposed to taste like, but I found these quite intriguing - the honey coating plays off quite well against the only slightly sweet, soft biscuit beneath, while the poppy seeds add another element to the texture and flavour profile.

 

I'm finding this test-baking exercise interesting. Jewish baking is a cuisine area I know almost nothing about, let alone New York Jewish bakery specialties. Until now, my knowledge of Jewish bakery items has been restricted to bagels, matzah and challah - and I haven't actually sampled challah of any variety, let alone baked it, although that's gonna change after the inspirational pics posted in this thread.

So, this project is an education as well as a stimulating challenge to make sense of a recipe without any graphical assistance. Enjoying it, and the baking routine that comes with the testing commitment.

Cheers all
Ross

I do wonder where the name comes from...  They get better as the days go by...

Ross, my imagination got the best of me...

Funny.... :-)

 

Well, I have to make those before Monday - not sure what to expect.   I also did not find anything in the net to guide me, so the two posts here were very helpful

 

 

Oh, no... I think it's wonderful to see the pictures of folks baking before -  I guess the look of these cookies might change a lot depending on how much poppyseeds you use to coat them with.

 

I mighe experiment with different amounts....

 

will report back, I hope I can bake them on Saturday

Well, well, well.....  we did not fall in love with this honeymoon

 

I tried to use a lighter coating of poppyseeds on mine.  

 

 

hi Mini, the name comes from the honey - obvious - and the poppyseed, which is called mohn in German and 'moon' or 'mun' in Yiddish. the combination just happens to make a nice fit! Stan

Crisp crust. Very chewy crumb. Delicious flavor. (Tasted 40 minutes after baking, without any spread or other accompaniment.)

David

And tasty looking crumb.

"Twisted Bagels" struck me as being a good name for a rock group.

TGIF.

"Twisted Bagels" struck me as being a good name for a rock group.

My first thought as well!

David

Egg bagels were my assignment for week 3.

As were not supposed to discuss the recipe I will let my camera speak for me.

I too, had these as assignment 3. One of these days I will catch up and post pics of these and the Polish Potato bread..

Nice job!

Betty

Crashed and  burned on the sour cream coffee cake -- ended up with a very, very dry cake that seemed antithetical to the "sour cream" title. 

The happy side is that this cake will provide me with the 1 cup of dried cake crumbs needed to test the next recipe -- Babka! 

 

And I'm going to re-cake the scck to see if I just plain old overbaked it. 

The guys must be shaking their heads at letting a novice get her hands on their recipes....

Other than David's photo above, I've never seen a Krakow Bagel before. Here's my effort. Chewy crumb, delightful flavor unadorned. My favorite topping is Churnuska, Poppy, and Sesame seeds with Kosher salt.

 

I can't wait!!!   I'm working on Linz Cookies (I'm 5 km from downtown Linz!) and now I'm getting nervous...    The cold dough tastes great!  ... sign of a good cookie!

Mini

These are, as Stan claims, very flavorful. I'm going to make them again, soon, but with conventional shaping. I don't think there will be any difference in flavor.

Linz cookies! Are they the same as Linzer cookies? the two-layer cookie with a cutout (star, circle, crescent, etc.) and filled with fruit gel? I haven't had one of them in decades; when I was a child they were a favorite. We bought them at a local bakery.

David G

...when did u get your linz cookies recipe, Mini? I'm in your group, I think, and haven't received anything since the Honeymoon Cookies (2 weeks ago now).

Cheers
Ross

hi Ross, i never got a feedback form from you for either the hamantashen or the honeymoon cookies. part of the deal was that after week 2, future test recipes would be contingent on providing feedback. Stan www.nybakers.com

Hi Stan

I don't know why you didn't receive my feedback. I imagine I would have been one of the first ones through for the hamentashen - I baked them on the Saturday and forwarded your feedback evaluation form on the Sunday (Saturday US time)!

The honeymoon cookies feedback I forwarded a couple of days ago, which was later than intended, but still within the deadline, I believe (it's the Monday 2 weeks after the recipe is sent, isn't it?).

Also, knowing I was going to be pressed for time, I emailed you on 3 June to clarify the deadline for the honeymoon cookies and didn't receive a reply from you. I have records of all these emails, which I can forward to you as proof that I sent them on the dates I've specified.

Here's the email address I've been using:nybtest [at] sbcglobal [dot] net

If that address is correct, the fault lies with our email connection (either your server, or mine), not me.

Up to you as to whether you delete me from the list, but as stated above, I was enjoying the testing and have complied with the deadlines to the best of my understanding. It might be politic to actually check with people that they really haven't been complying with your requirements before deleting them on the assumption that they haven't been - especially those who have been contributing to this thread.That is surely some indication of ongoing enthusiasm and commitment to the testing tasks that suggests something else might be awry other than simply not bothering to send in assessments?

Cheers
Ross

hi Ross, first, thanks for your detailed post. i'm gonna answer most of your points offline, since i think it's better to handle such things in private, but i would like to make a couple of points by way of explanation: first, with upwards of 150 active testers and 9 recipes a week to put out and keep track of -- in addition to doing all the other stuff Norm and i usually do, like making a living, etc. -- individual follow-ups when testers don't send in their feedback becomes challenging. our assumption is that some people will simply drop out -- as has in fact been the case -- and that the technology that has brought us all together is *usually* dependable enough that most emails will get through without problem. if, in fact, excluding you was our fault, we apologize: your participation, like that of all our testers, matters very much to us both as a contribution to the quality of the book that ultimately will get published, and also, and more importantly in many ways, as a show of support from this community, which we value enormously. as it is, i checked back multiple times and your feedback for Week 1 did not arrive by last week's cutoff. consequently, we dropped you from our list, as we did about 2 dozen others who signed up and failed to respond. i'm sorry we cut you out in error; i'm glad you brought it to our attention; i would have preferred that you contacted us directly. as i said, we'll be in touch offline about getting you the linzer recipe and other issues you raised. thanks again for your continuing desire to be part of this project. Stan

Yes, I agree it would have been better for this whole matter to have been handled with PMs. That was my intention. I did email you to ask about the next recipe when it didn't arrive, but received no reply. That's why I had to resort to raising the issue of the apparent non-arrival of the recipe in my inbox on this public board - direct communication with you hadn't yielded any response, and it seemed that it wasn't going to!

I can only think that my multiple emails to you (and on checking, the email address I used was correct), including both evaluation forms, were perhaps wrongly recognised as spam at your end - or something like that. I have now forwarded each of the mails concerned to you so you can see the date and time they were sent.

Anyway, all's well that ends well, which seems to be the way things are heading now. Nothin' like a happy ending!

Cheers
Ross

I'd thought you'd eaten all the cold dough; never got to bake the cookies. I'll take a dozen!

David G