Monheimer Salt Sponge & CLAS?

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Is there any relationship, at least in principle and end result, between the Monheimer salt sponge process and CLAS? I'm thinking of the Monheimer method's yeast retardation in favor of LAB development and intense souring over a long, warm initial ferment, followed by the use of cultured yeast in the final dough.  

The Monheimer I used from brotdoc doesn't - 

Monheimer Salzsauererteig TA 180:

312 g rye flour type 1150 (brotdoc: Austrian rye flour type 960)

250 g water

30 g stiff rye starter

3 g salt

Mix well and allow to mature for 12 hours starting at 28-30 °

I just looked up Ginsberg, and there's no yeast there, either.  That's what seemed so similar to me (though I only know just a bit from you and Yippee - the idea, more than anything else, not the procedure).  The comparative suppression of yeast and encouragement of LABs/souring over the initial period, followed by cultured yeast in the final dough.

Stiff rye starter contains yeast, so the whole sourdough will have yeast. No commercial yeast, if that's what you mean, that's true.

On the other hand, CLAS is made in a way that suppresses yeast from the beginning and doesn't let them grow, so it doesn't have any yeast in it.