Machine Dough Kneading Times

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I'm a home baker who loves to make sourdough breads. I generally use Hamelman's excellent BREAD book, but am wondering about the recommends on machine kneading. I have to replace my Breville 5-quart mixer because it has started clicking and grinding, and all home machine makers seem now to prefer users to only need on speed 1 for 2 min and speed 2 for an additional 2 min.

What to do? Hamelman always directs to mix on speed 1 for at least 3 min, and on speed 2 for between 4 and 7 min, depending on the recipe. 

I don't want to burn out another machine. Am considering the KitchenAid Proline 6-quart. What do y'all think? Lower machine kneading times and do hand knead for remaining time?

And it will depend on both the quantity and consistency of the dough.  I recently kneaded the dough for a loaf of Westphalian Pumpernickel (about three pounds of dough) for 20 minutes on Speed 2 in my 7-quart KitcheAid mixer with no problems, per the recipe instructions.

I'm not sure that it would have gone so well with a stiff wheat-based bread dough.  Actually, I know that my machine will not handle bagel dough.

A soupy ciabatta or focaccia dough, on the other hand, is a breeze for the machine.

So, it depends.  Standard answer for bread questions, I know.

Paul

Thanks, Paul. Your addition of detail on the KitchenAid 7-qt was just what I needed to know.

Cheers, Jill