Baguette not airy enough and too sweet

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OK, my husband and I are on a bread making journey starting with baguettes and after 2 tries, our results are not optimal. For bake 1 we:

- Used no poolish

- Used bread flour

- recipe called for just yeast, salt, flour

- Four 45 minute rises

Results: Too dense, but not terribly. Not good crunch or browning (after 25 minutes). Pretty meh for flavor

 

For bake 2 we used the King Arthur Flour recipe: 

- made a poolish with 1 cup APF; 1/16 tsp yeast; 1/2 cup water; let it sit overnight 

- Used APF for dough

- recipe called for yeast and flour (no salt)

- Two 45 minute rises

Results: Too dense, cakey-like, but not as dense as bake 1; good crunch; meh flavor - very sweet; definitely needs salt.

 

Questions:

1. How to improve the flavor - not salty or sour enough

2. What's you r advice for kneading - I slapped and stretched the air out of the first bake's dough between rises and the hubs did a stretch and fold between rises for the 2nd bake. 

3. Probably more questions to come but that is it for now. Lucky you, I'm open to unsolicited advice. :)

 

If I'm in the wrong forum or if there are answers in another space let me know.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Steph & Owen 

 

Thanks!

 

I can fix one part of the problem:

Bread not salty enough: Add more salt. Problem solved. ?

OK OK, when to add it is a legitimate question. ?

Hi,

You need much longer fermentation times to develop flavour.  This usually requires much less yeast to stretch out the time for the dough to mature.  My baguettes are made with a poolish also, but it takes 12 hours to mature the poolish. After mixing the final dough, I bulk ferment for two hours, with a fold after one hour.  After bench rest and shaping, the dough is left for one hour for final fermentation.  I can give you the bakers percentage for the ingredients if you want.

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Hi Gavinc,

 

Thanks! And please do send your percentages for ingredients. That would be much appreciated. 

Hi, 

Bread flour 100%, Water 66%, Salt 2%, Instant yeast 0.4%

So, for a 700g dough mix, overall you need Bread flour 416g, Water 274g, Salt 8.3g, Instant yeast 1.5g

Preferment 33% of the flour in a poolish = Bread flour 137g and water 137g (100% hydration) and a small pinch of yeast, then subtract these amounts (except the yeast) from the overall for the final mix.

I can PM you a link to my spreadsheet for recalculating quantities if you want.

Cheers.