Troubleshooting Crumb

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Hi everybody! I'm new here, so please redirect me if I need to post in a different place :)

I've been cooking and baking for many years, but I've always had trouble getting a good crumb in very basic flour, water, yeast bread rolls. I am trying to get a more feathery crumb, but much of the time I get a rubbery texture. It's not horrible, but not very good either.

Here is an example of a roll I baked yesterday. 

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and here is the crumb:

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the texture is a lot like a kitchen sponge as opposed to good bread - very rubbery.

I honestly have no idea what I'm doing wrong. It's been something that has frustrated me for years, so I am very much looking forward to getting any suggestions.

Thanks!!

 

Different flours will produce different textures.  What kind of flour did you use?  Also, a full recipe might help too so that others can chime in on particulars.

What is your recipe and method?  Agree with the comment about different flours producing different results (texture, aroma, flavor, color).

 

I use the recipe from this site - Tom Cat's Semolina Filone.  I replace all of the flour with my own preference of the day, which is generally a combination of whole rye, whole spelt, all purpose and whole wheat.   This recipe is flour, water, salt, yeast only.  Very good results.   Reduce water in the dough by about 10%.  The water quantity in the original recipe is quite wet in my experience. 

 

 

I generally use just store brand AP flour. I will have to try some different brands. Is there any that you recommend that works well for this type of bread? Also, much of the time I generally don't follow a recipe, just making a 70% hydration dough, but this time a used the recipe for the European Hard Rolls from King Arthur Flour

www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/crusty-european-style-hard-rolls-recipe

I tried to follow the recipe weight and timings as closely as possible, but I still got a similar result to what I normally get.

What I really want to duplicate are the type of hard rolls I've gotten on cruise ships. They are very light in texture.