IMHO the biggest flaw with this site these days isn't that there's not enough information (though there are still significant gaps in certain areas), it is that there is *too* much information. For a newbie who comes here looking for no-knead bread or a basic sourdough starter, I'm sure it is extremely daunting how many different hits they get when they do a search on those topics.
I've been stewing on this for some time and playing with different ideas and technologies to try to figure out what the best way to solve it would be. The idea I am most intrigued by would be use the Drupal book module to allow us to create a structured document collaboratively that would represent the "authoritative" recipes and instructions (or as close to authoritative as we can get). By document I don't mean 1 web page, I mean a bunch of pages linked together with a single table of contents. So think of as a new tab you'd see in the top navigation that would lead you to a table of contents. Each item in the table of contents would be it's own page. By no means would the book replace the discussions we have here every day, but it would create a single document into which our collective wisdom could be gathered.
The way I'm imagining this would work would be I would start the ball rolling by creating the book and starting to stub in the sections and pages (I'm imagining top level sections on things like Gear, Ingredient, Techniques, and Recipes, but even that would be something I'd like us to decide collectively). Site members who who wanted to be involved could contribute at a couple of different levels: I'm imagining one level of contributors who have something like editorial level access who can create pages, edit any page in the book, rearrange the order of the pages and so forth. Another level of contributor could author pages about topics they know a great deal about (starters, different grains, a particular recipe, etc.) but not need to worry about formatting or the technical aspects as much.
What else... not everything on the site would make it into the book. I realize that there are at least 20 ways to start a sourdough starter, but we'd want to pick just a couple of methods and document them well. The goal wouldn't be to create an exhaustive document, just one that is approachable. For further reading, there are the nearly 5,000 discussions we've had here and which we could point to.
I'm imagining that comments would be disabled on the book pages. It'd be like Wikipedia: every page has a dedicated area where people can debate the details, but the pages themselves rarely reflect this discussion. I'm imagining that I'd create a dedicated forum for discussion of the book (what should go in it, what should not, whether a given post is accurate, etc.), but we'd keep the book pages as clean and authoritative in voice as possible. You know, like a *real* book. ;)
License-wise, I'm imagining placing the document under something like The Creative Commons license that Drupal uses. Basically by becoming a contributor to the project you'd be vowing that any content you posted is your own and that it is OK for other people to use it in non-commercial ways. If it *really* came together as something like a book it'd be fun to find a place online that could do printing-on-demand for us so we could have a TFL book on our shelves or to give to friends, but I'm not counting on that right now. The goal of this isn't to get rich or get published, it is to better organize our thoughts and share our knowledge with one another.
So, I guess my questions to the community members are:
- Would this interest you as a reader?
- Would you be interested in participating? Editing?
- Do you think it is a good idea but to try to start something like this right before the holidays is insane?
My own answers are "yes" to the first two and "perhaps" to the third. I've got some enthusiasm and energy to put toward this right now so part of me wants to jump on it right away, but another part of me thinks I should just cool my jets until early 2008. We're all going to be busy enough the next month or two.
I would be glad to help in any way I can.
Given the fact that I was totally brought up or raised by info from this website I could provide a perspective from the Novice. It is very easy to be totally frustrated by so much info on this site and in the books that it is helpful to have some guidelines at the beginning so as to not get that drowning feeling that I recognise in the posts of many beginners.
Congratulations, and I will be glad to do all I can to help....(i also lick stamps, wash windows, and take out the trash)
CountryBoy
...in any way I can help
It's been my privilege to learn an extraordinary amount from the posts to this site. I'm a regular lurker (and sometimes poster). I would love to contribute back to the betterment of the site.
To respond to your specific questions...
[quote]- Would this interest you as a reader?[/quote]YES absolutely![quote]Would you be interested in participating? Editing?[/quote]YES tell me how I can contribute. No task is too small.
[quote]Do you think it is a good idea but to try to start something like this right before the holidays is insane?[/quote]YES, excellent idea but recommend wait until mid Jan 2008 to begin.
--dolf
See my My Bread Adventures in pictures
What subfuscpersona said.
My computer skills are minimal though I have an adept son to draft--I'm not sure how but would be glad to do what I could to help out.
Glad to copy edit.
Susan from San Diego
I have no knowledge of this book module but it doesn't sound all that different from a Wiki. I am available for any and all tasks that you need to fill positions for, including maintenance and development. Let me know.
--dolf
See my My Bread Adventures in pictures
My offer for assistance goes to all technical depth that you need. I have plenty of technical knowhow and experience.
--dolf
See my My Bread Adventures in pictures
Floyd ~
Very Good Idea ~ It seems like the way to go with this site.
LOL "going to be busy for the next month or so" welcome to "The Happy Holidaze "
EveryOne Have a Happy Thanksgiving :>)
Slidething
Actually floyd, this is a great Idea. I was not online at this time (inbetween countries and living like a gypsy kind of screw with routine)
But I would be all for doing what I can. Its a great idea. :)
--dolf
See my My Bread Adventures in pictures
wiling to help..let me know what I can do..