Baguettes with Poolish from Hamelman's "Bread"-third try

Quick recap of the baguette baking:

-followed the recipe apart from the fact that I did not have enough AP flour on hand and sifted some stone ground white whole wheat flour to make up the difference.I think the ratio was about 3/4 AP to 1/4 WWW

-read and re-read about pre-shaping and shaping three times........even though it might not look it, that part seemed to go a lot better

-final proof was for about 1 hour 15 minutes

-the crumb is very light  and has a beautiful fragrant flavor;deeper taste probably due to the inclusion of the whole wheat

overall I feel this is an improvement from the last two tries......if I keep on working on baguette baking I  guess I will have to buy a peel.That was the most frustrating part-transferring my nearly perfect looking risen loaves to the oven-and scoring................let's not even talk about it! I don't know which way to adjust-am I scoring too deeply,does it need to go deeper?

Anyways, am happily munching on these guys!

be patient.  Baguettes are hard!  If you haven't watched it, you should avail yourself of a shaping video featuring Ciril Hitz that a TFL member posted [url=http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/17260/ciril-hitz-videos] here [/url].

The scoring comes with lots of practice.  Your cuts need not be very deep - about 1/4" is sufficient.  Make sure that you're not cutting straight down, but at about a 30° angle to the top surface of the baguette.  The cuts should be nearly parallel with the length of the loaf, and overlapping each other by about a quarter to a third.  Your bottom baguette shows the beginnings of good gringes.  Practice, practice.

As for transferring your baguettes, you can cut out a rectangular piece of heavy cardboard, cover it with a nylon stocking that you can flour so that the baguette does not stick to it, and use that.  It's called a flipper board.  See below for a pic of my homemade one. 

Somewhere on this site is a KAF video showing them working in King Arthur's production area and transferring baguettes to a loader using a flipper board, but I'll be darned if I can find it now.

Anyhow, keep at it!

Larry

Thanks, Larry! It is interesting, even though I thought the taste of the previous ones was great-these taste even better and I don't think it is necessarily the difference in flour. They seem looser-less dense. And I will keep practicing, just maybe with a sourdough one....I can only handle so many yeast french baguettes!

Thanks for that tip with the flipper-I love it! Nylon stockings here I come.

Regarding scoring, I think I have been holding my knife too shallow.......yes, more practice as you said.

Wishing you a great evening and again I really appreciate your input.

Christina

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I'll second the flipping board comment.  That was suggested to me a while back and it helped considerably.  Mine is just a piece of 1/4" plywood about 5" wide and 30" long.  I don't usually need to flour it and use it on all the longer shaped loaves now.  You could make a peel in a similar manner (mine is pine) and I sprinkle semolina on that for lubrication.  (Note: they are longer to accomodate a wood fired oven).

Flipping board and peel

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and looking good, Christina.  

I'll second Larry's suggestion about the piece of cardboard covered with a nylon stocking.  It's lightweight and easily stored in any kitchen drawer and works great.  The price is right, too.

By the way, if you don't have a peel, just cut out a bigger piece of cardboard to accomodate the size of the baguettes, plop a piece of parchment on it and you'll have an instant peel.  

The challenge of baguette shaping - the pros make it look oh so easy.  Maybe after you've done a few hundred...

Thanks for your replies! Pdiff, great to see your peels-I guess I never really thought I (or let's say my husband) would have stuff lying aroudn at hoem that we could use to make a peel out of! Thanks for putting that thought in my mind.

I know, Lindy, it does look so easy...geez! Yeah, if the issues surrounding shaping and scoring indeed can be practiced on sourdough baguettes, then I might make a few hundred.This yeast dough-even with poolish- will have to rest for as bit now!

Next up, pretzels again and then one of the potato bread variations!

C

If  you haven't tried the Bouabasa sourdough baguettes posted by David Snyder, give them a try.  They're quite awesome - and pretty easy.  I might just skip the poolish baguettes for a while as I know there's no way they can compare (after all, I have to eat what I bake).  

I keep getting distracted from the Hamelman challenge and need to get back on that path.  Maybe a rye sourdough this weekend.

Hi Sedimaierin,

I recently purchased a baguette baking tray. This is what I place my shaped baguette dough in for their final proof. Tray and dough are all placed in the oven in one easy movement. I can't say it improvrd the flavour but hey the shape is now perfect.

Hope this idea helps.............Cheers.............Pete

Christina-

This is worth the watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlpp5Xmslb8.  You'll see the whole process of making a baguette, but especially at the end you'll see the use of a flipper board as well as scoring.  Mr. Hamelman even makes a cameo appearance!

Enjoy - and keep at it!

Larry