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Is it necessary to let the starter double before adding it to bulk ingredients?

ForceMOD's picture
ForceMOD

Is it necessary to let the starter double before adding it to bulk ingredients?

I know my starter is strong. Is it necessary to let the starter double before adding it to bulk ingredients? I can understand why you would do it to make certain your starter is strong. But I know it's strong and want to save time and just add starter to bulk ingredients. Thoughts?

fredsbread's picture
fredsbread

It's not just to check if your starter is strong, you wait until the start is ripe so that the yeast/bacterial population is big enough to get the job done in a reasonable amount of time.

Let's use the following basic recipe as an example:

Levain

  • 100 g flour
  • 100 g water
  • 20 g starter

Main dough

  • 200 g levain
  • 900 g flour
  • 600 g water
  • 20 g salt

Hypothetically, let's say that the levain takes 8 hours to become ripe, and bulk fermentation of the main dough takes 4 hours. If you don't wait 8 hours for that levain to become ripe before mixing it into the main dough, you are essentially creating the following recipe:

  • 1000 g flour
  • 700 g water
  • 20 g starter
  • 20 g salt

And instead of bulk fermentation taking 4 hours, you're looking at it taking 12 or more hours as the microbes in the starter still have to multiply enough to produce the gas and acids we're looking for. If that timing works better for you, great! I myself prefer a low inoculation (50g stiff starter to 1000g flour) and long bulk fermentation at room temperature over a large preferment with a fast bulk fermentation, but you can't just drastically change the microbial population of your main dough without expecting some changes to the process.

pmccool's picture
pmccool

Allowing the starter/levain to ripen before use ensures that it contributes plenty of yeast to the dough.  In other words, it actually helps with your objective of saving time, since a dough made with an underripe starter/levain will rise slower.

If fast bread is important to you, you will probably prefer using bakers yeast instead of sourdough since sourdough is the opposite of fast.

Paul

Abe's picture
Abe

Where you save time using an under ripe starter you'll lose time in the main dough. 

Sourdough can be relatively fast if you plan it well. Making a large percentage levain, allowing it to mature overnight, will shorten the final dough on the day of baking. So the long wait is just while you sleep. 

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Phazm

if you think it's strong enough - use it - adjust as needed. Enjoy