Paddle in bread machine

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Hi,

I'm sure this must of been asked before but I did a search and couldn't find so, here's the problem.

I've been making bread for a year now with a breadmachine. I really love the bread but the hole in the bottom created by the paddle is frustrating as heck. I don't mind a small hole but lots of times, it's a huge hole. I tried oiling (cooking oil) the shaft inside the paddle, tried oiling the outside of the paddle etc.. and nothing helps. Does anyone have any tips to avoid a big hole?

Thanks

Depending on your bread machine, you could pull the paddle out after it deflates the dough for the 2nd rise.

If the above doesn't work then I would take it to the next level since you obviously desire a better product.  You could mix the dough in the bread machine and then form it into buns, loaves, retard it, do pretty much anything.

I started with a bread machine myself about 10 years ago.  Since then I've stopped using it and learned so much about poolish, pate fermentée , bigas, pastries, cold retarding dough, etc etc. 

I stopped using the bread machine just because I hated that paddle imbedding thing!  Never thought of taking it out after the kneading was done... still I agree there are so many better ways to make better bread... love the prefermenting and the sourdoughs and using bigas etc...

I did remove the paddle once before the baking and it was great. Problem is with my busy schedule, I usually put the ingredients at night and let it do it's job over night. There' s new bread maker machine that came out that has a collapsible paddle. I looked at it and it seems cheap; not sure + the pan is small.

Thanks

I was given a breadmaker a number of years ago and I used it for a while as such but I was put off by the paddle in the bread/spindle-hole situation. Also the crust was never to my liking. However seeing as I'm being moaned at for over use of the oven I have attempted to remedy the dent situation.

What I tried was this:

A. getting hands on the sort of foil tin you sometimes get take-away meals in.

B. Cutting away the bottom leaving only a small section of the walls of the tin.

C. putting it over the paddle free spindle leaving a hole.

D. putting the mixed dough into the modified container and using the bake only setting. Normally If I use the machine at all it's as a mixing machine if I'm being lazy so it was my first time using this setting.

E. As you can see the bread looks okay for a bread machine but where my experimental false bottom has been it's a bit pale and there is a visible line where the two surfaces connect.

F. Here is the bottom of the loaf, no paddle, no dent but not much colour.

In conclusion if the dent is a big issue you might as well use the oven :-D