A few years ago, I was asked to explain lactic acid fermentation in sourdough, and the difference between homo- and heterofermentation. Not an easy task, partly because I wasn't satisfied that I knew enough, or that I could reconcile what I was reading in bread-baking books with what I had learned in school. To sort it out, I had to dig deeper into the scientific literature. Answers are there in bits and pieces, although not in a context that is easy to make sense of. As I plugged away at deciphering current microbiology textbooks and scientific research, I started to see things in a new light. And so now, I want to share what I've learned with those who wish to know more.
First, I'd like to introduce the concept of a metabolic pathway. On paper, a metabolic pathway can be illustrated in a flow diagram that represents a sequence of enzyme-controlled chemical transformations. While the pathways in this discussion start with sugar and finish as various end-products, there are several intermediate compounds formed along the way as one thing is converted to the next. The names may be intimidating at first glance, but don't let them scare you. Knowing their chemical reactions and what all the compounds are is not as important here as understanding their overall purpose, which is to produce energy for the organism. Like all living things, microbes need energy to perform the tasks that enable them to live, grow and multiply.
Some pathways generate more energy than others. Through respiration, glucose and oxygen are turned into carbon dioxide and water via the Krebs cycle, also known as the tricarboxylic acid or TCA cycle. You may have seen it before if you've studied biology, because it's the same pathway we humans use. It is aerobic, meaning that oxygen (O2) is involved, and it generates far more energy than any fermentation pathway. Whenever oxygen is available, respiration is favored by facultative anaerobes like yeasts, because they will always take the path that generates the most energy under the prevailing conditions. For the most part though, bread dough is anaerobic (without oxygen), and fermentation is an alternative pathway that doesn't require oxygen. When yeasts ferment sugars, they produce alcohol (ethanol) in addition to carbon dioxide. Fermentation produces much less energy than respiration, but it allows microorganisms to carry on when no oxygen is available, or they lack the ability to respire as is the case with lactobacilli.
Bacterial fermentation is more varied than fermentation by yeast. Bacteria produce organic acids that contribute, for good and bad, to the quality of bread. Controlling acid balance and degree of sourness is something that artisan bakers strive to do, so it may be useful to understand where the acids come from and how their production can be influenced by things that are within the baker's control. In yeasted breads, acids come in small doses from naturally occurring bacteria present in flour and commercial yeast. (Fresh yeast generally has more bacterial inhabitants than dried, and whole grain flours more than refined.) In sourdough breads, acid-producing bacteria are supplied in much greater numbers from starter. There are many different species and strains of bacteria found in various types of starters, and because they produce lactic acid while fermenting sugar, they fall under the heading of Lactic Acid Bacteria (LAB).
Lactic acid bacteria common to sourdoughs include members of Leuconostoc, Pediococcus, Weissella and other genera. But by far, the most prevalent species belong to the very large and diverse genus, Lactobacillus. Based upon how they ferment sugars, lactic acid bacteria can be sorted into three categories. Please bear with me now, because while these terms may look impossibly long and technical, they are actually self-descriptive. Take homofermentative LAB for example. Homo-, meaning "all the same," refers to the end product of fermentation (by lactic acid bacteria), which is only, or "all" lactic acid. Heterofermentative then, means "different" or mixed end products. As lactic acid bacteria, heterofermentative LAB produce lactic acid, but they also produce carbon dioxide gas, alcohol or acetic acid as well.
SUGAR STRUCTURE
As carbo-hydrates, sugars are made up of carbon (C) and water, which is composed of hydrogen (H) and oxygen (O). The hydrogen and oxygen atoms are arranged in various configurations around a chain of carbon atoms which form the structural backbone of the molecule. The carbon chain may be various lengths, but sugars common in bread fermentations are of the 5- and 6-carbon types, referred to generically as pentoses and hexoses, respectively. Glucose and fructose are examples of hexoses. Pentoses are sugars such as arabinose and xylose.
Glucose Fructose Arabinose XylosePentoses and hexoses can exist in the chain form, or in a ring structure which forms when dissolved in water. Single sugars, or monosaccharides, are often linked together into larger carbohydrates of two or more units. Disaccharides, containing two sugars, are important in bread fermentations. Maltose, which is made up of two glucose molecules, is the free-form sugar most abundant in dough. Sucrose, another disaccharide consists of one glucose and one fructose.
Glucose Maltose
Fructose Sucrose
-Sugars illustrated by Antonio Zamora. For a more complete explanation, with diagrams of starches and pentosans, please see his lesson, "Carbohydrates - Chemical Structure" at: http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/carbohydrates.html
Sugars that can be fermented, and their end-products are variable from one species of LAB to the next. But the key lies in the structure of the sugar---particularly, the number of carbon atoms in the backbone of the molecule. Homofermentative LAB can only ferment 6-carbon sugars. In the homofermentative pathway, a hexose is processed and split into two identical 3-carbon pieces, which are passed down through the reaction sequence and transformed into lactic acid molecules. In contrast, heterolactic fermentation is based on 5-carbon sugars. Pentoses may be used directly, although more often, a hexose is cut down by removing one of its carbons. The extra carbon is cast off in the form of carbon dioxide gas, and the remaining 5-carbon molecule is split unequally into 3- and 2-carbon units. The 3-carbon piece is turned into lactic acid, while the 2-carbon piece will become either ethanol or acetic acid. Up to this point, heterolactic fermentation doesn't produce as much energy as homolactic, but it does give an advantage over homofermentative LAB, which cannot utilize pentose sugars.
Additional energy can be produced by turning the 2-carbon piece into acetic acid, but it requires the assistance of another substance. The term for this is co-metabolism, meaning that two substrates are used simultaneously---a hexose for its carbon backbone, and a co-substrate to facilitate the formation of acetic acid and generation of additional energy. The co-substrate can be one of a number of things including oxygen, citrate, malate, short chain aldehydes, oxidized glutathione, fructose and 5-carbon sugars. In the absence of co-substrates, the 2-carbon piece is turned to ethanol instead. Alternatively, when pentose sugars are fermented (used as the carbon source), acetic acid may be produced without the help of co-substrates.
Some lactobacilli can use oxygen as a co-substrate. Some cannot, and are inhibited by aerobic conditions. In any case, there is a small amount of oxygen in dough only at the beginning of fermentation, and generally not enough to affect acetic acid production to any extent. Likewise, citrate and malate aren't naturally present in significant amounts, and pentose utilization varies by species and strain as well as availability. While all these things may be used to the extent that they are present, it turns out that fructose is generally the one most available in bread dough.
All of the pathways in this discussion are glycolytic pathways. Glycolysis is the conversion of glucose to pyruvate, which is the springboard to both respiration and alcohol fermentation in yeast, to lactic acid fermentation in LAB, and to many biosynthetic pathways (manufacture of compounds used in other life processes). Oxygen is not required, so glycolysis is especially important to microorganisms that ferment sugars, like the yeast and bacteria which grow in the anaerobic environment of sourdough.
Homofermentative lactobacilli share the same glycolytic pathway with yeasts---the Embden-Meyerhof-Parnas, or EMP pathway. But in contrast to alcohol fermentation, pyruvate is reduced to lactic acid. In either of the two pathways here, the sugars are split into smaller molecules---two identical 3-carbon units (glyceraldehyde-3-phosphate) in the EMP pathway, or a 3- and a 2-carbon unit in the heterofermentative pathway. The 3-carbon pieces all follow the same path to become pyruvate and then lactic acid, while the 2-carbon acetyl-phosphate on the other side of the heterofermentative pathway can become either ethanol or acetic acid.
Glucose is not the only sugar that can be utilized. With appropriate enzyme systems, other sugars can be converted into glucose or one of the intermediates in the pathway such as glucose-6-phosphate (or in the case of pentose sugars, ribulose-5-phosphate). The ability to use other sugars varies by species and strain. Most sourdough lactic acid bacteria ferment glucose preferentially, but Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis separates maltose into a glucose-1-phosphate and a glucose. The glucose-1-phosphate portion is converted to glucose-6-phosphate to enter the heterofermentative pathway, and glucose is excreted from the cell.
In addition to obligately hetero- and homofermentive, there is a third type of lactobacilli characterized as facultatively heterofermentive. These are lactobacilli that are not restricted to one pathway or the other, but can use both. Facultative heterofermenters switch back and forth between the homo- and heterofermentative pathways depending upon which sugars are available. In general, they ferment hexoses via the homofermentive route, and pentoses heterofermentively. Most will use the hexose sugars first, although some strains ferment pentoses preferentially. Many co-metabolize fructose with maltose through the heterofermentative pathway, but use the homofermentative pathway when only maltose is available.
To put all this technical information to practical use, we need to consider factors that influence LAB activity and pathway selection. The end products are determined by the species and available sugars, which for lean doughs, depend upon the flour and the activity of enzymes. Whole grain and high extraction flours can affect acidification in two ways. First, the higher mineral (ash) content serves as a natural buffer system, which allows bacteria to produce more acid before the pH drops low enough to slow their growth. And second, grains supply pentose sugars in the form of pentosans. Although rye flours are best-known for these, pentosans are also present in wheat and other grains. (But, because they occur in the outer layers of the kernel, they are largely removed along with enzymes and many other substances in the milling of refined flours.) Cereal enzymes act on pentosans to some degree, freeing pentose sugars like xylose and arabinose that heterofermenters may be able to use according to species and strain. Pentoses will increase acetic acid production if they can be fermented or co-metabolized, either one.
Acidification is also influenced by hydration and temperature. Contrary to popular belief, all three groups of sourdough lactobacilli prefer wetter doughs a bit on the warm side, many growing fastest at about 90ºF or a little higher. For the homofermentive species producing only lactic acid, increasing activity by raising the hydration and/or temperature will increase acid production. Decreasing activity by reducing hydration or by retarding will slow production. There is a direct relationship between activity and lactic acid. During heterofermentation, for each molecule of glucose consumed, one lactic acid is produced, along with one carbon dioxide (if a hexose is fermented), and either one ethanol or one acetic acid. But under wetter, warmer conditions, where sugars are metabolized more rapidly, the tendency is toward lactic acid and alcohol production in obligate heterofermenters, and all lactic acid (homofermentation) in the facultative heterofermenters. Lactic acid production is directly related to activity during heterofermentation just as in homofermentation, even if only half the rate.
At lower hydrations and temperatures (lower activity), more acetic acid is produced, but not because of temperature per se. Acetic acid production is influenced indirectly by temperature, in that it affects the kinds of sugars available. The fructose that drives acetic acid production, is liberated from fructose-containing substances in flour, largely through the enzyme activity of yeast. And, because lower temperatures are more suited to yeast growth than higher, more fructose is made available to the bacteria at lower temperatures. At the same time, the bacteria are growing and using maltose more slowly, so the demand for co-substrates goes down as the fructose supply goes up. The ratio of acetic acid to ethanol and lactic acid goes up, because a higher percentage of the maltose is being co-metabolized with fructose. Reducing hydration has a similar effect of slowing the bacteria more than yeast, which I believe is the real basis for increased acetic acid production in lean breads made with refined flours.
Contrary to myth, the species that grow in sourdough starters are not tied to geographic location, but rather to the traditional practices in the different regions. Several organisms go into the mix, but the environment created inside the starter from the combination of flour, temperature and maintenance routines is what determines which ones will thrive. In type I, or traditional sourdoughs (i.e., those maintained by continuous refreshment at room temperature), the obligately heterofermentive Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis is the species most frequently and consistently found---not just in San Francisco where it was first discovered, but all around the world. And so it deserves special attention.
Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis is fairly unique among the obligately heterofermentive lactobacilli, in that it ferments no pentose sugars. And unusual among lactic acid bacteria in general, because it prefers maltose over glucose. But it will co-metabolize fructose with maltose to produce acetic acid. L. sanfranciscensis converts maltose into one glucose-6-phosphate which enters the heterofermentative pathway, and a glucose which is excreted back into its surroundings. This is a good arrangement for common sourdough yeasts, since maltose is the most abundant sugar in wheat doughs, and some lack the ability to break it down for themselves. Yeasts and other bacteria that can ferment maltose, generally prefer glucose. And so by providing glucose to competing organisms, L. sanfranciscensis actually helps to conserve the maltose for itself---just one of the ways in which it gets along well with other sourdough microorganisms, and perhaps one of the reasons it is found so often.
Alternate pathways are a recurring theme in the microbial world, because microorganisms have less ability to control their environment or to leave when conditions become difficult. They sometimes have to switch gears to survive. In that effort, lactic acid bacteria will utilize whichever fermentation pathway that generates the most energy within their capabilities and resources. In order of preference, the hierarchy seems to be heterofermentation with co-substrates (forming lactic acid and acetic acid), followed by homofermentation (all lactic acid) and heterofermentation without co-substrates (lactic acid and ethanol).
While traditional sourdough starters usually support one or more strains of Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis, it is often found in combination with the facultatively heterofermentive Lactobacillus plantarum, many strains of which can either ferment or co-metabolize at least one pentose sugar. Various other obligate and facultatively heterolactic acid bacteria are also common (obligately homofermentive LAB are only transient in the startup process and do not persist in established type I starters). Sourdough starters are sensitive ecosystems with complex associations of lactic acid bacteria, and combinations can be highly variable from one starter to the next. Lactic acid fermentation is as complex and varied as the organisms involved, and so sourdough processes may need to be optimized on a starter by starter basis.
- Debra Wink
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This article was first published in Bread Lines, a publication of The Bread Bakers Guild of America. Vol. 15, Issue 4, Dec. 2007.
Revised: November 4, 2009
It's a very big discussion --- a book's-worth, really. And unfortunately there's a limit to my time, so I'll not try to cover all the factors contributing to population dynamics here and now. Part of the appeal of the 1:1:1 or 1:2:2 ratios so common here is simplicity, especially for newbies and non-professionals who often equate higher feed rates to more complicated math or wasting flour. The low rate may or may not be optimal for a given starter, depending on the temperature, hydration, ripening time and other considerations. It's never just one thing. But I would like to point out that there is a difference between small batch fermentation in the average home kitchen, and large batch in a production bakery, which is where many famous bakers and bread book authors are coming from and where they develop their formulas.
There's a phenomenon that has been dubbed the mass effect. Somewhat vague, in that there doesn't seem to be any clear or detailed definition/description/explanation of it. I haven't found one, anyway. Large masses of dough or starter tend to move quicker than small --- that is easy enough to observe, and to attribute at least partly to greater heat retention. But there are other claims large-batch bakers make as well. About superior flavor and quality of the finished bread that are probably related indirectly to mass, but not directly to temperature.
Another factor to think about is something I like to call the 'bakery effect' (after the winery effect in wine fermentations). Basically, the bakery setting is contaminated by a buildup of the dominant sourdough microorganisms, due to the volume and frequency of bread-making there, that a bakery itself contributes to inoculation of refreshed starter and new batches of dough. This carry-over is acknowledged in the scientific literature, and explains why all the starters kept in a given bakery tend to return the same organisms (and often some bakers' yeast if that is also used in the bakery), regardless of the type/source of flour -- white, whole wheat, or rye -- and other process parameters. Bakers' yeast will invigorate things, as does continuous propagation.
So there are a lot of subtle reasons for production bakers to be using different feed rates than the average home baker (including bakery hours and work flow). Differences that neither may be aware of if they haven't experienced both. Then of course there are individual differences between starters in general. The scientific literature also says that sourdough processes should be optimized on a starter by starter basis. Keep these things in mind as you're comparing your processes to someone else's, otherwise it can lead to either doubting yours, or dismissing theirs. How much and how often do you bake bread? That will influence whether your home kitchen and bread-making equipment is more like mine, more like a bakery, or somewhere in between.
Having said all that, 10% starter with 100% hydration doesn't seem atypical to me. Note that 10% represents just one more generation than 20%. I'm a home baker who doesn't bake bread very often (my batch sizes are also smaller than most at 1K or less), and I generally use 20% starter for a 12-hour ripening period, to 50% for about 8 hours, 100% for 6 hours or 200% for 4. Variable, of course, with the temperature in the kitchen. I know of one world-class baker who claims to inoculate with as little as .5%. Now, I couldn't get away with that, but then, my kitchen isn't spurring it along.
All else being equal (always the qualifier, seldom the case), reducing the inoculation in starter will increase the ratio of LAB:yeast if ripening time is adjusted to match. But because high LAB suppress yeast, there will come a point at which leavening will drop off. For me that is around 10%. For you, something lower. In a busy bakery, ...? For dough it's often the opposite. Dough is less fermented than starter and has salt added (and lower hydration than 100%, usually). The combination changes the dynamic. But today, I shall leave it at that.
All best
Hi Debra
At last - a potential source of the information I have been scouring the net for, and up to this point failing.
I am fructose intolerant, which to this point has seen me eliminate bread from my diet, as although many varieties will confirm they contain 'no fructose'....as in "why would we put fructose in it?"....it still contains sucrose (either remaining after fermentation or even added afterwards, and i can't quite get them to understand that sucrose is 50% fructose :)
When you have this sort of response, you lose all faith in the integrity of any information supplied on the subject by manufacturers....a bit like with gluten, when a manufacturer claims that it is 'gluten free'....but they suggest you don't eat it if you are actually gluten intolerant :)
Anyway, i came across Sourdough, and I have been wondering whether this might be the 'miracle' I have been looking for - a way to eat bread (yummy), because the fructose in natural sucrose of the flour has been consumed by the starter.
From reading various texts, including yours, it is clear that not all fermentation will consume fructose, and so i am hoping you might shed some light on how i might optimise Sourdough baking to optimise the removal (metabolism) of fructose, so that I can add another food stuff to my limited diet. I imagine that the choice of starter is essential in this regard, as well as the choice of flour (rye being higher in sucrose than wheat, for example).
My finger are crossed that this isn't just blind optimism - can i really add something else to my food list?
Thanks
Urica
Hi Urica,
I'm afraid I can't help you, as I'm not familiar with your condition or its etiology, and I'm not qualified to give diet advice to people with health problems. If you are self-diagnosed, I suggest seeking guidance from a healthcare professional and/or a licensed dietitian.
Best of luck,
dw
Hi DW
I completely understand.
Let me re-frame that question, so that all the risk is on me, and I am not asking if I can eat sourdough, or whether you would recommend that I eat sourdough.
"How does the fermentation process impact the fructose content of the dough?"
Thanks
Urica
The majority of free fructose is likely used up by LAB. But there is also fructose locked in sucrose and some of the more complex carbohydrates of flour. If you don't tolerate sucrose, then the fructo-oligosaccharides are likely to be a problem too. It's not very likely that they would be entirely broken down.
My best,
dw
I must confess, my degree is in business and accounting. I've been working with sourdough for some time now and have grown to love the nutritional benefits. I'm trying to read and understand the thread, and of course I understand LAB, different sugars, the process that breaks down the complex sugars in wheat, to simple sugars and then are consumed by the bacteria and yeast. (I know this is an over simplification). My goal is to understand what improves the consumption of sugars (i.e., whole grain, white flour, etc...) and the amount of time, all other things being equal, does it take to do so. My grandchildren do not yet like a very acidic (sour) bread. My goal is to ferment long enough and to utilize the best combination of grains (whole or flour) for the bacteria and yeasts to consume the bulk of the sugars, yet not so long as to make it very sour (more mellow).
I appreciate over simplification if possible.
Marcy
PS are you still teaching courses?
I'm taking a break from teaching this year, but I'll be back at it in 2020 :) Thank you for your interest!
For milder breads I'd recommend maintaining your mother starter on white flour at a low hydration (firm dough), and feed it 2 or 3 times per day at a suitable rate, at room temperature (for at least the day or even two leading up to making your dough if you can't keep that up indefinitely -- I get it). Whatever it needs to invigorate the leavening and reduce the souring, so play it by ear. Aim for a starter that can expand to triple in volume, and not deflate too much by feeding time. Adjust the feed rate as needed for the schedule.
Also, pick a formula and process that is meant to produce mild bread, like Jeffrey Hamelman's Pain au Levain. When fermented properly and well-made, I find that one to be popular with children (and adults). But you don't really want all the free sugars to be consumed because they are important for browning and flavor. Without them, your loaves will be pale, unattractive, and not as flavorful as they could or should be.
My best,
dw
For the last fortnight I have searched for and read / reread Debra Wink's posts on the Fresh Loaf website. There is a lot to learn and unlearn about sourdough. I am grateful to you both for maintaining the site and helping me with the art and science of sourdough.
I was wondering if there is a list of known co-substrates that can be used to facilitate formation of acetic acid (mainly in the interest of reducing acetic acid production in my own stiff starter, or in experimental doughs it would be used in.)
It seems to be pretty confusing since I'm really rusty on chemistry, but I remember something about reducing sugars...which are reducing agents, but then you've got the electron acceptors (oxidizing agents) which you mention to be co-substrates.
Also, without a co-substrate, would maltose be fermented into lactic acid? (Or I guess the question is what other acids are potential byproducts of fermented maltose. Because I don't think yeast in sourdough can use maltose directly, correct?)
And another thing comes to mind -- what about lactose? Milk is often an interesting addition to doughs, but I was curious about how it would be fermented (I'm pretty sure the yeast in sourdough can't use lactose as is).
I was wondering if there is a list of known co-substrates that can be used to facilitate formation of acetic acid (mainly in the interest of reducing acetic acid production in my own stiff starter, or in experimental doughs it would be used in.)
I'm not aware of one. That was just a list I compiled as I came across them in various articles, but most of those things are not present in flour in significant amounts. Fructose is probably the most important (along with pentose sugars in ryes and high-extraction flours). So, if you want to keep acetic acid to a minimum, I recommend sticking to the refined white flours in your starter and limiting whole grains, if using, to your final doughs. Beyond that, keep the starter cooler if you want to reduce total acid production to make it milder overall, or keep it warmer if you want to increase lactic acid and total acidity.
Also, without a co-substrate, would maltose be fermented into lactic acid?
Yes, either all lactic (homofermentation) by the facultative heterofermenters, or half lactic/half ethanol by the obligate heterofermenters.
I don't think yeast in sourdough can use maltose directly, correct?)
Some yeasts can, but they generally don't while other sugars are present in high enough amounts, particularly glucose.
And another thing comes to mind -- what about lactose? Milk is often an interesting addition to doughs, but I was curious about how it would be fermented (I'm pretty sure the yeast in sourdough can't use lactose as is).
Baker's yeast doesn't utilize lactose, but I'm not sure if that's true of all sourdough yeasts. Certainly, there are several lactobacilli that can ferment lactose as that is how yogurt is made. And milk adds to bread in other ways.
My best,
dw
Hi Debra. I truly admire your sense of sharing and educating when it comes to bread making. I have a question or two regarding my starter. Well, I am pretty happy with it. It's vigorous and mild. It's just after I feed it regularly with atta whole wheat (50% hydration), it has pleasant alcoholic smell and mild sweet taste (literally sweet) with a hint of acetic smell when ripe. When nearly ripe, it smells like donut shop (lol). Do you have any thought about it? I never measure temperature, but it gets somewhere between 26 to 38 degree celcius where I live. I ferment at room temperature for 2 hours before refrigerating. I'm not trying to change a thing, just trying to get better understanding of it.
Another question. Could you name any literature regarding what sugars contained in every type of grains?
Thanks, I appreciate it
Jay
... it has pleasant alcoholic smell and mild sweet taste (literally sweet) with a hint of acetic smell when ripe. When nearly ripe, it smells like donut shop (lol). Do you have any thought about it?
I'm thinking it sounds pretty wonderful :) I would say that you have found what works best for you with your atta flour in your warm climate. Whole wheat and high temperatures tend to encourage bacteria and the sourness/havoc they bring when out of control, but your low hydration and judicious use of the refrigerator are the counter measures keeping all that in check.
And that hint of acetic is quite typical with low hydration and whole grain, but acetic acid is higher only in relation to lactic acid and not more acid overall (acid balance rather than acid quantity). Acetic acid can be higher in relation to lactic acid and still be low in concentration (mild in flavor). You're keeping the total acid concentration in check by keeping bacteria in check.
Could you name any literature regarding what sugars contained in every type of grains?
I'm sorry, I haven't come across anything comprehensive in that way.
My best,
dw
I appreciate it. And regarding my second question, I just wondered if using non-wheat flours entirely in levain for mostly wheat bread can always be done seamlessly. I have tried using 66% oat flour in levain. The final rise was fast, although vegetal taste was present (almost like cucumber lol)
Right now I have levain made with entirely glutinous black rice flour (made with my atta starter) in the fridge. If it works, I will convert my starter to rice starter. My rationale is, starter has no structural role anyway, and since I like black rice flour for nice crust color (even at 5%), maybe worth the shot.
Best regards,
Jay
As far as prefermenting various non-wheat flours in your levain (as opposed to adding them to the final dough?), you just have to try it on a flour-by-flour and bread-by-bread basis. I think that fermentation generally either magnifies an ingredient's flavor or transforms it into something different. And the particular species and strains of bacteria and yeast in your starter play a part in the resulting flavors, not just the substrate. Interesting that you got a cucumbery flavor from oat flour. I wonder if scalding or cooking the oat flour first would give you yet another flavor.
If it works, I will convert my starter to rice starter.
Just keep in mind that maintaining your starter on a different grain is likely to change the microbial profile within, and that can change its character. Only you can decide if the change is desirable or not in the end. To be safe, keep a portion of your starter the way you have been (or stored in the fridge) while converting the other portion. It may take a few weeks to transition and get a good idea about how it is going to turn out in the long run.
Best in baking :)
dw
The black rice levain was vigorous. I usually proof for 4 hours, but tonight's bake was overproofed at 3.5 h
Regarding putting weak flour in my levain instead of final dough, my intention is to preserve the gluten of my strongest flour, so I can fit in more whole grains without compromising structure too much, by letting it spending less time fermenting. For example, tonight's bake, I managed to fit 29% black rice flour in 75% hydration dough. The dough could be grabbed by hands. All whole grain went to levain. Since all gluten was in my white flour, no need to worry about gluten degradation in the levain. Unfortunately, since it was overproofed, I can't say much right now. But I am determined to perfect it, since I really want 30% black rice in my daily bread rotation :D
Regarding oat flour, I tried regular rolled oat vs. instant oat vs. toasted rolled oat. Instant oats give the strongest vegetal flavor, toasted oats give more acidic flavor, and regular rolled oats give mild bread that's highly versatile. Rolled oats one is in my daily bread rotation. 20% rolled oats + 20% atta, to be precise
And regarding my starter, she already has changed complexion from light brown to deep purple :D
Regards,
Jay