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Keto rolls and bagels

JonJ's picture
JonJ

Keto rolls and bagels

It is amazing what can be done with faux substitute ingredients nowadays. I've previously had some bread and rolls made by a local 'low carb' company specializing in keto products called "We Love Low Carb" and the baked goods product range is truly outstanding -  bread (sourdough and CY), buns, bagels, pies, pitas, wraps, pizza bases, and why not have hot cross buns as well!

I'm always into exploring what makes products tick, and this bake was mostly about learning more about how these modern miracles of food technology work.

With that in mind, I baked some rolls and bagels using a bag of their all purpose flour mix. The bag of their flour mix lists the following ingredients: sunflower seeds, sesame seeds, oats, almond/macadamia nuts and vital gluten. In other words, what we have here seems to be the use of low carbohydrate seeds and nuts (except for the oats, which I wouldn't count as low carbohydrate, right?) and the magic ingredient that allows for a bread texture and makes this suitable for so many different kinds of breads would be vital gluten. It is interesting, and notable that flax seeds aren't listed as an ingredient, and in reviews of the product people seem to regard this as a positive thing! Perhaps people are tired of the taste if they're on a diet where this is a major constituent.

The bag contains a brief recipe: "500g of we love low carb flour, 300g water, 15g yeast, 14g salt, 30g sweetener. Mix all together for 12-15 mins. Let rise then bake for 40 mins at 160C". A couple of things are noticeable - a lot of yeast and salt. And more emphasis on the mixing than on how long you should leave it to rise! Rather cheekily the recipe leaves the sweetener up to you, which could be a source of carbs or artificial sweeteners, I guess (I used agave syrup for this).

In the initial mix with a Danish whisk, it felt and looked like a gluten free bread, and that had me fooled at first.

In fact, I left it for 10 minutes before using my Kenwood as I was treating this similar to a gluten free bread. But, the mixing is essential, and this is the opposite of a gluten free bread, there is a lot of gluten here. The strangest thing is that after mixing for 10 minutes on the dough hook it developed a really tight elastic ball of dough. So tight that it was very difficult to remove from the dough hook, I've never struggled as much to remove a ball of dough from my dough hook as with this bake.

I made both rolls and bagels. The bagels were boiled, because to me a bagel has to be boiled. The dough could handle the boiling treatment acceptably well, although you do have to be gentle with your handling when you're seeding the boiled bagels as they're softer than with normal bagels and do deform easily.

And there was a lot of lovely oven spring. Nice browning on top. Beautiful texture and crumb. Flavour-wise it tastes like the ingredients, not as nice as real bread, but the texture can fool your mouth.



An interesting experience overall and one I'd recommend if you were on a carb restricted diet.

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gavinc's picture
gavinc

Thanks for posting this. I'm on the search for low carb recipes and will search this out. I've found that I don't get a big glucose spike if I eat a slice of 80% rye sourdough and cover it with proteins and fats (ham, chicken or avocado). Delicious.

Cheers,

Gavin

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JonJ

I'm not sure if you'll be able to find similar in Australia, and may have to make up your own formula, but at least the ingredients list from this blend is a great starting point. Would be curious if you've got a similar product!

To provide some context, in South Africa our variant of the low carb diet, often called banting here, became extremely popular a few years back due to the publication of a book called the real meal revolution. So, in the health section of our shops you are as likely to find gluten free as banting products.

Personally, I do prefer the rye breads you describe, there does seem to be something innately healthy about them!

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ll433

I had no idea something like this existed, i.e. using vital gluten not as an improver but as a complete wheat replacement. How much vital gluten is there/100g in this mix, you think? I suppose the oats do contribute something to the bread-like feel with their gelatinous texture. And of course oats are very good at controlling glucose spikes, even if they are moderately high carb.

LL

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JonJ

Hi Lin, I have honestly got no idea how much vital gluten they added, but think it might be a lot judging by my struggle getting it off the dough hook.

Interesting thought about glucose spikes. I'm still deciding if something like this is better than more 'natural' bread. 

-Jon

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ll433

Hi Jon,

I wonder. Copious amounts of vital gluten is probably not going to give our bodies much, though I guess it gives some bready-texture relief to low-carb eaters. But re glucose spikes - replacing the vital gluten with a blend of rye, oat, buckwheat and a small amount of wholegrain wheat might work somewhat (and if bready texture is much desired a pinch of vital gluten could do the work). Half of my father's family were diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes in their 40s, and all of them controlled it to astonishing degrees with oats.

The way vital gluten has been utilized in the past decades is really quite interesting. Especially astonishing and somewhat contradictory because it's incorporated so much into commercially, rapidly produced wholegrain breads. I knew it as a kid only in the form of seitan, which was used to create small slices of mock meat in vegetarian noodle dishes. Interesting that a by-product of noodle making (I think that's how it started in Asia especially in vegetarian Buddhist cultures) has now become an ingredient in bread-making! 

-Lin

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JonJ

What interesting information, both on VWG and oats and diabetes.

Whilst I don't follow a low carb diet, my wife dabbles, which is how I knew about these products. And, she has also gone through a few gluten free phases, probably more so than when it comes to keto. Which is why I repeatedly have tried (and usually failed) making various alternative breads. Plus, the food science side of it is so fascinating, and I love the challenge of baking a great gluten free bread.

I guess we all do owe it to ourselves to explore high whole grain breads, and at least breads made with ancient grains (or rye) if we're not making breads from other grains. Now, I'm not at all saying gluten is bad, just that modern wheat has some issues. A lot of our problems with digestibility of modern wheat comes from eating wheat cultivars that have been bred for yield and pest resistance rather than digestibility. And, at the same time, as a baker I also love pulling lofty and airy loaves out of my oven, which may be a little contradictory.

-Jon

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ll433

I too share your contradiction. I alternate between SD wholegrain and yeasted soft bread (the tangzhong makes such a difference, doesn't it) quite a bit. I always say it's to give the kiddos' teeth a break, but really I like the soft stuff at times. Not to mention that we steam a lot of buns here as well.

Wow, gluten-free baking is surely another ball game altogether. Kudos for having that on your repertoire too! The south-east asian diet is for a large part gluten-free, which is why our pantry does have tapioca, corn, rice, glutinous rice and buckwheat flours - convenient for the guest who shows up with a gluten-free diet. I have stayed away from GF bread for its complexity, but do make/bake food that turn out to be GF such as soba noodles, Pao de Queijo, buckwheat crepes etc.

-Lin

ll433's picture
ll433

I too share your contradiction. I alternate between SD wholegrain and yeasted soft bread (the tangzhong makes such a difference, doesn't it) quite a bit. I always say it's to give the kiddos' teeth a break, but really I like the soft stuff at times. Not to mention that we steam a lot of buns here as well.

Wow, gluten-free baking is surely another ball game altogether. Kudos for having that on your repertoire too! The south-east asian diet is for a large part gluten-free, which is why our pantry does have tapioca, corn, rice, glutinous rice and buckwheat flours - convenient for the guest who shows up with a gluten-free diet. I have stayed away from GF bread for its complexity, but do make/bake food that turn out to be GF such as soba noodles, Pao de Queijo, buckwheat crepes etc.

-Lin