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Emmer-einkorn-kamut trials

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Gadjowheaty

Emmer-einkorn-kamut trials

I began these quite awhile ago but they've become some of my family's favorite breads - levains with a goodly portion of emmer, kamut and einkorn in some combination or alone with bread flour.  

A 50:50 kamut/einkorn:

60% einkorn, 40% bread flour:

 

60% Emmer, 40% bread flour:

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RyeBread

Fantastic breads! Baking with Einkorn and Emmer is quite challenging. Did you use whole Einkorn / Emmer?

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Gadjowheaty

Thanks!  Yep, whole grain.  Outside of my T550 (usually King Arthur All Purpose), Weizen 1050 and Roggen 1150, which I get from Central Milling, a miller here in the States, I feel really lucky to have growers locally who provide whole khorasan, emmer, einkorn, rye and spelt.  I have a good strong mill at home - I got it through the help of some great members here, in particularBarryvabeach if I remember correctly - and so I mill all these here.  Here's just a clip of the workhorse in operation:

https://youtube.com/shorts/hscC6OeTL40

 

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albacore

These look  good, Paul - I do like Einkorn. Have you any outline recipe details?

Lance

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Gadjowheaty

Sure, this is my basic einkorn levain.  Sorry for the weird look - exported from a spreadsheet:

StarterGramsB.P.Total % 
Bread Flour4350%  
Water4350%  
Starter (liquid rye)8.00   
TOTAL WEIGHT (GRAMS)86   
     
MAIN DOUGHGramsB.P.Total % 
Starter8619%10.15% 
Water30267%35.66% 
Bread Flour15434%18.18% 
Einkorn 29666%34.95% 
Salt92.00%1.06% 
Bassinage25   
TOTAL WEIGHT (GRAMS)8471.9lbs 
     
Overall DoughGramsB.P.Total % 
Bread Flour19739.96%23.26% 
Einkorn29660.04%34.95% 
Water34569.98%40.73% 
Salt91.83%1.06% 
TOTAL WEIGHT (GRAMS)847   

 

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albacore

Thanks Paul; I'll add this to my "to bake" list.

Lance

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Gadjowheaty

You bet Lance.  Thanks for your help along the way as well.  Hope all is well with you.

"To bake list," lol.  Just based on the Angebacken community alone, I long ago told them I couldn't catch up with 1/10th of what they do in several lifetimes.  Add here to it, well...forget it!

Not sure if people have left or are no longer active - I dropped off the map a long time, sort of a dark period I passed through.  Are Idaveindy still here? DanAyo?  Mini Oven?

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albacore

A gentle decline in numbers, according to a recent post by Floyd. Some good new members arriving, some fallen by the wayside. Idave not seen for a long time, reason unknown, Danny drops in occasionally, Mini also.

A covid boost of course, and then a post covid drop. Competition from FB groups and IG, of course. Personally I don't like their less structured format, but many seem happy with it. An interesting comment from your very own Brotdoc on exactly this topic!:

https://brotdoc.com/2015/07/04/angebacken/

Lance

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Gadjowheaty

Thanks Lance.  I was always been fond of both Mini's and Dan's posts, hope they are well, and Dave is as well.  I'll never forget Mini's comment when I started my first forays into rye - "welcome to the dark side."  

I'd not seen the post on Björn´s site, thanks.  I know he and Lutz went in different directions, really appreciate both of them.  Björn is now a friend I am really grateful to have, and I´ve learned so much from Lutz´s books as well.  Is Karin (Hanseata) still active, do you know?

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albacore

Did you ever have success with the Gerard Rubaud bread? I seem to recall you got hooked on the 5 hour starter refreshes back in the day.

I've tried making it a few times, according to MC's recipe details, but it never seems to turn out how I would like it and not like her pictures of Gerard's loaves. Not sure why, as it's a pretty simple recipe really.

Lance

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Gadjowheaty

I would say I was happy with the result, but I abandoned the Rubaud starter a long time ago, lol.  Too old for being hyper at refreshing every 5 hours, all day through the night.  Need all the beauty sleep I can get!  So now, outside of developing yeast water or LM from time to no, all of my breads are made with 100% rye, the only started I use.  I do like his blend of flours, though.  

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Benito

Wonderful bakes Paul.  Glad you’re back, I’ve always enjoyed reading about your bakes.  These really look fabulous.

Benny

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Gadjowheaty

Thanks Benny.  Nice to know you're still active.  I always learned tons from you.

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Benito

And I from you as well Paul.

Benny