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Bummer! Act Now! NY Bakers Liquidation

alcophile's picture
alcophile

Bummer! Act Now! NY Bakers Liquidation

I just received an email from The New York Bakers that Stanley Ginsberg is liquidating his inventory and will no longer sell small packs of flours at retail.I am sad to see this as he had the best selection of rye flours and meals that I could find in one place. Bummer!

The white rye flour sold out before I could finish shopping.Yikes!

Act now!

Slideslinger's picture
Slideslinger

My delivery from NYB arrived earlier today, then I saw his email about the liquidation. I immediately ordered another 4 bags. This is just devastating, as far as I'm concerned. My biggest concern is also where I'm going to order rye flour and  French style T55. The flour selection on Amazon is lousy, not to mention overpriced. Any of you guys have a decent source, domestically?

Gadjowheaty's picture
Gadjowheaty

I get many flours from Central Milling.   Their Beehive, at 10.5% protein/0.55% ash, might be worth looking into for your your T55 style flour.  I can't verify but I've read here that whole foods' 365 AP is in fact, Beehive.  They sell from 5#-25#-50# bags.  Shipping can be deadly, but depending on what you're looking for, might be an option.

It is a shame when any supplier goes out of business.  He had a lot of options but unfortunately I never depleted my stocks to warrant more.  I hope it wasn't under duress, though I fear it was.

alcophile's picture
alcophile

Not exactly duress, but probably not the preferred outcome. Here's the email from Stan:

Dear NYB Customer,

After 12 years of offering professional ingredients in consumer-sized packaging, we've come to recognize that it's time for a change. The pandemic, rising shipping costs and the loss of our lease has motivated us to rethink our business model.

Starting October 1, The New York Bakers will concentrate on consulting to the trade and - as soon as conditions allow - our bakery tours to Europe and beyond. In addition, we'll also be offering a curated list of professional flours and malts in trade-sized packaging, typically 40- to 50-pound bags.

To clear the decks for our new business model, we're offering our remaining stock at 30% off across the board. Quantities are limited, and when an item disappears from our website, it's sold out. You can find a complete listing of our in-stock inventory here. Please act today, because the items you want may not be available tomorrow.

I also personally like to thank all of you for your continuing support. It's been a great 12 years since The New York Bakers opened its virtual doors, and we deeply appreciate your business.

Thank you for everything,

Stan Ginsberg Proprietor, The New York Bakers

I still had stock of rye meals and dark rye flour, but I figured I would stock up because coarse and medium rye meals are very hard to find.

Yippee's picture
Yippee

 

And maybe a few sieves. This way, you will get the freshest rye flour when you need it. Never have to worry about the supply of rye flour anymore.💪💪💪

Yippee

 

P.S. I used to buy white rye from King Arthur, but it's not always available.  Sometimes it's out of stock (for a long time) when I needed it.  And the ones that I stocked up went rancid rather quickly. 

Gadjowheaty's picture
Gadjowheaty

It's nice to have the bolted, but I do like the option of true medium and light ryes, too.  Since getting a Retzel (thanks Barryvbeach!), I am loving using up some pastry wheat berries purchased by my wife by accident (soft winter red).  WW tarts...

alcophile's picture
alcophile

Thanks for the suggestion, Yippee. Can you recommend an inexpensive (<$100) mill or flaker that can produce coarse, medium, and fine rye meals? I'm not really interested in milling my own flour because they are generally more available, but meals are harder to find commercially.

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Yippee

 

 

Alco:

It feels like I'm facing a similar challenge here, but I do have a couple of finds that meet your budget:

 

$86.99 grain flaker that a TFLer recommends

$52.99 (high) - $44.54 (low) Victoria Manual High Hopper Grain Grinder, Black - I've never used this one.

 

The following devices will work only if you have a KA mixer:

$45.17 KitchenAid Grain Mill Attachment - KGM - (the website looks suspicious, be careful). I used to mill course rye flour with a KA grain mill attachment. It's perfect for milling coarse meals because it does a lousy job milling fine flour!

 

$59.99 Kitchenaid grain mill attachment - powder, may not be what you need

 

Yippee

Gadjowheaty's picture
Gadjowheaty

Thanks alcophile.  Yeah, that's a shame.  I can get medium and light rye from KA, but IIRC supply is inconsistent.  

As someone who poured everything he had into a business (restaurant.  First authentically French in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan), I feel it right in the gut when I read stories like these.  I hope his wholesale model keeps him going.

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Slideslinger

Thanks for the heads up Gadjo - unfortunately the Beehive flour is malted - as is the Whole Foods AP version... :(
I bought Giusto's La Parisienne from Stanley - which is a T55 clone. It's one of my absolute favorite flours to bake with. Sadly no one else sells it - not even Giusto.

Gadjowheaty's picture
Gadjowheaty

Cool thing is that our local coop not only carries Central Milling now, but they also get in Giusto's.  Didn't catch what types, but looking forward to going back.  Tons of whole berries, too - emmer, einkorn, khorasan as well as the usual suspects.  Just got a Retzel mill so really looking forward to them.

What is it about the malt that you don't want, just curious.  I think malted T55 is common, isn't it?