Folding, windowpaning and dough strength

Toast

Are we supposed to assume that when a dough reaches the point that it windowpanes, the dough has enough strength?  I let my white sourdough reach just that point in the mixer the other day, and did not fold it.  It seemed a bit slack to me, but I was experimenting.  The result was a slack dough that spread quite a bit in the oven. (I did the final proof in a banneton.)  I have also taken that same formula and given it folds to the point that in the oven, it bursts because it's too strong.  How do we assess when I dough has hit that magic point of being strong enough but not too strong?

SOL

I think the only way to know is to experiment until you can feel it.  I don't bother with the windowpane test.  I have never found it to be very helpful.  I have stopped using my mixer too.  I mix the dough, then do folds on 30 minute intervals until the dough reaches the right consistency (usually 3 folds).  Then I let it finish proofing, shape and bake.  I pretty much ignore rising times in recipes, except as approximations, and bake by feel.  It sounds like you already know what your dough should feel like-you thought it was slack and it was.  Use the Force, Luke...

The San Francisco Baking Institute's newsletters are an amazing, and free, resource.

They are available at http://www.sfbi.com/newsletter.html

In the  Fall, 2004 issue there is a long article by Didier Rosada on evaluating dough strength.   He also talks about how to get there, how to handle weak and strong doughs, and much, much more.

A strongly suggested read!

Mike

 

That is a great resource.  Now I have more bread-related reading to do...

 

I am the Tim who emailed you about bread and Farmer's Markets, BTW.  Thank you for your response.   

Toast

I had read that little bit about dough strength...I think it's time to re-read it.  I made several loaves of roasted garlic boule again today, and got it just to that magical point where it rises fantastically in the oven; no bursting or flattening out.  I was very conscious this time about assessing dough strength before adding a fold.  I had been making some very slack doughs, then to remedy it, I began adding folds, and then it got to the point where I was making the dough too strong... The more I do this, the more I appreciate the bakers who make it seem so easy to turn out loaves today that are identical to yesterday's.  So many variables!  That's what makes it exciting and exasperating!

SOL