Edible disaster
Well, I decided to bake a no-knead loaf the other day. I find my house is cool so I use a slightly heated oven as my place of choice to rise my bread. A few hours into the rise my son decided to preheat the oven to 300 to warm up some chicken. He yells out " hey. what's that smell in the oven?". Now my dough is smelling like bread and has a crusty top to it. I decide to see what happened if I kept on with making the loaf. So I took it out and on a floured board I pulled and folded a few times to get the crusty part inside. I then let this mess rise ( and it did) for another 12 hours. Into a 450 degree cast iron dutch oven and It ended up being not too bad a loaf. Made great sandwiches for work. I wouldn't have served it to company, but it really wasn't bad. I think this no-knead bread is pretty forgiving stuff.
Way to go to be creative! That's the fun part of bread making. If it doesn't turn out exactly what we're going for, we can always make it into something else!
Just two weeks ago I saw a water roux starter recipe and I really wanted to try it. I must have made some mistakes in measuring the ingredients. The dough didn't rise at all! So I made it into sweet flat bread and to my surprise they turned out to be very delicious! So hey, if it tastes good, that's all it counts.
Bake More Hate Less writes:
The last thing I wanted to mention was this No Knead Bread phenom that seems to be sweeping home bakers everywhere. I might be arriving on the scene just to see the fad pass, I hope, but a blog is for two cents, so here are mine: STOP. Good bread takes time, and not even that much labor, just, well...time! There is very minimal kneading to be done in the first place! This no-knead crap isn't really saving you any time: you still have to allow the bread to rise just as if it was being kneaded anyways! Do yourself a favor: if you're going to make bread, make it YOUR bread. Knead it, squeeze it, punch it...form your loaf of bread and make it your own. I promise it will make you happy.
don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, just putting it out there
Well, it certainly seems to me that whoever wrote it chose a wrong name.
so not agreeing with a chosen technique is hating? i dont know about that.
i think that the author may be trying to say that no-knead is neither true baking nor loving (in a strictly platonic fashion, haha). putting love into your baked goods (or any product that one is to consume) requires work and no-knead seems to be exactly opposite. i'm all for letting the ingredients speak for themselves, but show some love and make your bread.
btw, i didn't mean to start any arguments, i really just wanted some healthy debate...i look forward to more interaction!
You call this "not agreeing"?
In the interest of trying not to hurt any more feelings and trying to put this argument to rest, I'll say this.
It's certainly not hate, as your earlier comment implied. I stand by my motto of "Bake More, Hate Less". Just because I strongly disagree with something, and may call it crap, doesn't mean that I hate it. I have the utmost respect for Mini Oven and eargly search for her newest posts any chance I get. While my comments are strongly worded and may not fit the tone of TFL, I do think about my words before they meet the virtual page. Rest assured, I will not make these same mistakes again.
Interesting how the posted statement can be reversed under this thread. Sorry, I responded hostile to your answer not the whole thread...
Mini
Mini-
I'm very sorry if I hurt your feelings, that's the last thing I intended to do, and in re-reading the thread, I can see why you would be insulted. I have been enjoying your posts for some time and couldn't live with myself if I knew I had wronged you in any way. Please accept my apology. I see these forums as a place to exchange ideas and I thought that I was playing devil's advocate. Maybe this isn't the place for such exchanges. Again, my deepest apologies.
Dan
I was rewriting my post and you are just too quick for me! Lol! Here is the revised letter. No white flag needed.
Mini
Sorry you caught it...
Thank you, I will sleep soundly tonight.
Please keep 'em coming!
Btw, I'm the Bake More Hate Less author, in case anyone was left in the dark on that. And I stand by my motto.
Chill and let people have their opinions. You can disagree if you want. It's easy for a typed message to accidentally come out sounding too harsh...
Brian
And sometimes just accepting that other people do things differently is a huge challenge when I'm attached to my beliefs. It's hard to allow that in the process of coming into knowledge we all might pass through valleys of darkness...whether they be (my favorite bete noirs) bread machines, no-knead bread, or boxed bread mixes. In the end, they're just part of the journey, and I really think that people who are motivated to move on to become intuitive, addicted bakers will find their way. : )
Patricia/ Pollyanna