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dlassiter's picture
dlassiter

killing bugs

Sorry about this post, but we need to talk. I get my bran by the pound from a self-serve bin. Works great. Except I learned long ago that you needed to freeze the bran when you get it home to kill whatever eggs insect beasties have laid in it. I usually freeze for 24 hours, and keep the mix well sealed.That's always worked. But this last batch hatched a couple of moths in the bag a few weeks *after* getting frozen for that long.

Now, I'm not anal about bug eggs. It's just protein, and you get a lot more on them fresh in the salad greens you consume. But I'd like to avoid wholesale infestations. Strategies for pest-free mix? Maybe a few days of freezing?

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suave

Weevils, which I think are the main danger are killed in the freezer very quickly, within hours, although it may depend on the size of the package.  If you encounter a hardier insect, your first move shold be identifying it.  FWIW, I simply a have a second fridge, all my flour and grain is there.

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dlassiter

Thanks. These are not weevils, but small moths. Yes, I wish I could store my grain in the freezer, but that isn't possible. I suppose I could throw a few moth balls in there, but ... ick.

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cgap

24 hours may not be long enough to kill off the bugs or eggs. If it's a moth, then it could be a re-infestation or it means that something hatched and grew. Either way, refreeze your bran for at least 48 hours.

Check the other grains/flours/spices etc in your cupboard - there may be something else lurking that you haven't noticed yet.

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dlassiter

Yes, 24 hours is evidently not long enough. Pretty sure it isn't reinfestation. The bags are well sealed. But indeed, these moths look a little like "pantry moths" that we had a few years ago. No sign of those in other things, that we also now keep well sealed.

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barryvabeach

If you have pantry moths, read about the 4 stages of life of a pantry moth, and what it takes to eradicate them, i had an infestation once, it took quite some time to kill them off.   I haven't had a problem recently,  but I understand others take a different tack to kill off the larvae  -  freezer for a week,  sealed container with dry ice  are some of the suggestions I have read.

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dlassiter

Yes, the issue isn't how to get rid of pantry moths in the pantry. Had them, froze everything overnight, and they were gone. The issue here is that I froze my bran for 24 hours, and that evidently wasn't enough. A week, you think?

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barryvabeach

Yes,  I have read that a week is enough to kill off the eggs and larvae..  If you had a pantry month infestation, I doubt you solved it in a day.  Usually, but the time you see moths in the house, there are eggs, larvae, and puppa elsewhere in the house - at least there was in my house.  

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cgap

Pantry moths seem to hate ground cloves.

We've had a few infestations in the past and after getting rid of them (usually by having to throw out a lot of dry goods) we've found that sprinkling ground cloves in the bottom of the pantry and leaving a couple of open containers with ground cloves on the shelves has stopped them returning.

You also end up with a nice clove smelling pantry.