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Cooked Potato Starter White Bread

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dabrownman

Cooked Potato Starter White Bread

 

With Lucy’s success, after 3 tries, at the Methodist Ladies, 1906 Witch Yeast, Lucy thought she could move on to a more difficult starter - especially now that she has finally passed the last of the aluminum foil wrapped Hershey’s Kisses she ate a couple of days before Christmas – nearly a whole bag of them.  So much for chocolates being poisonous for dogs too.

When it comes to Bernard Clayton’s Complete Book of Breads, you never know where he came up with some of his starters, or what he was thinking, since most of them have commercial yeast in them.  This one is fairly odd though in that the first 3 days it doesn’t have any potatoes in it of any kind.

 

It could just as easily have been called Scalded Corn Meal and Milk Starter with some sugar and salt in it since that is how it begins.  You can find the recipe on page 284.  You just let this sit at 80 - 85F for 2 to 3 days, stirring it once a day until it ferments and becomes frothy.  How it does this I have no idea since the mix is scalded which should kill of f and denature most all the stuff in it that would make a starter.

 

Lucy says it is ‘wee beastie magic’.  Then you add boiled mashed potatoes, a huge amount of the potato boiling water, both cooled, along with some more sugar and salt.  You let it sit at the same temperature for another day, stirring every few hours, before refrigerating the soupy mass for 3 days to ‘age’ it.

So this another one of those no wheat flour potato starters but this one worked the first time because, unlike the Witch Yeast, the direction on how to make it were fairly clear and easy to follow.  When done it did smell a bit like a young fruity SD starter.  Clayton didn’t give a recipe to use it in, like he did the Witch Yeast, so we had no idea how to use it.

Holiday cookies aren't complete until the puff paste rugalach are done.

We cut the formula In half since the original would have ended up with 2 quarts of the stuff which seemed excessive – especially when the only things we keep in that mega size around here are beer, bourbon and wine.  Lucy thought we should just treat it like a finished levain but it was too soupy for my reckoning.

A nice small 8 pound Christmas Turkey.  Sweet limes (a new citrus for us) , butter, fresh sage and rosemary under the skin - after 24 hours in an apple cider brine.

So I, being the master in charge, overruled my apprentice and decided to feed 180 g of this stuff with 60 g of whole grains - 10 g each of rye, wheat, oat, barley, spelt and Kamut just to see if it could live once off a corn and potato diet and thicken it up to a more normal levain consistency.  4 hours later it seemed to be happily bubbling away so we fed it to the LaFama AP dough flour and some more potato water, this time half sweet potato water, until it felt like a 75% hydration dough.

Since the starter had so much salt in it, we had to guess at how much more was need and decided 1% the flour weight would work.  We sprinkled it on top of the dough ball and let it sit for 30 minutes so the white flour could hydrate.  We then did 3 sets of 30 slap and folds on 30 minute intervals and 3 sets of stretch and folds, from the compass points only, on 45 minute intervals.

 

Last week's Witch Yeast, Fig and Pistachio bread with a nice smoked pork. chili spiced, noodle soup.

 Once shaped we put it in a rice floured basket and then bagged it for a 20 hour cold proof.  We took it out of the fridge the next day and let it warm up on the counter for 2 hours hoping it would finish proofing since it didn’t do much in the fridge.  These young starters tend to be weak so you have to be patient or just love potatoes more than you do the average, aluminum pooping, bread baking apprentice!

We decided on using a hot aluminum pot for a cloache so that Lucy would know what aluminum should really be used for……. instead of makeshift, intestine rippers.  We preheated to 450 F and baked at 425 F for 15 minutes with the lid on since SFSD is baked at lower temperatures and this was a smaller loaf to begin with at 850 g. 

 

Once the steaming was done, we continued to bake at 425 F, convection this time, for another 15 minutes until the bread thumped done. It bloomed, blistered and sprang well enough under cover and browned up nicely with the dry heat.  We will have to wait to see how the crumb came out when we slice it for dinner.

Got to have corn bread for Christmas Dinner!

For a brand new corn and potato starter only 5 days old, this bread really stunned Lucy.  It has only the mildest of sour but it is fairly open, glossy, soft and moist on the inside.  It isn't super open for a 15% whole grain bread but the rest of the sought after crumb characteristics are there in spades.   The girls are going to like the left over cranberry, stuffing and turkey sandwiches we will make with this bread.   This is just the kind of bread they love.  You have to love Clayton! 

Yea!  The oranges are finally ripe

 

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Reynard's picture
Reynard

I suppose Lucy is in the doghouse over the chocolates, but I guess the upside is sparkly poops... I hope the incident didn't necessitate a trip to the dreaded V E T.

Otherwise I hope you had a lovely Christmas, DBM :-)

I haven't been around much thanks to the last minute bright idea of sewing a set of show drapes for a friend's surprise xmas gift. The curtains went down a treat, but I could sleep for a month. Not sure I'm cut out to be one of Santa's elves.

It's a shame you're so far away, as I have just the thing to go with that lovely bread of yours - home made Gravadlax ;-)

It received Madam Lexi's seal of approval (she stole a slice off my plate) so it has to be good ;-)

Poppy says those oranges would make lovely marmalade.

 

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dabrownman

Love those gravlox too.  Lexi has good taste.  No trip to the  evil dreaded vet for Hershey Thief - she would rather die than go to the vet.  My SIL used to make gravlax before she passed.  Very different taste than smoked salmon for sure but just as delicious.  

Hope your Christmas was a good one.  Ours was great and now my daughter's Fiance is here for a few day visit.

Glad you liked the bread and happy baking Reynard

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Reynard

Though I did have to use a few prawns as a bribe to get Madam Lexi to sit still for long enough LOL...

Am pleased no real harm done to Madam Lucy as a result of her chocolate-munching escapade.

I use a recipe from the Hairy Bikers, from their 12 Days of Christmas book. I was lucky enough to pick up a fresh salmon side for £1.50 in clearance just prior to the holidays and it seemed like a good thing to do :-) All it requires are a few kitchen staples, some fridge space and a wee bit of patience. It's been so good with bread, butter and a squeeze of lemon - let me know if you want the recipe.

Yes, we had a lovely Christmas here thanks - just mum, the furry girls and me. We had a guinea fowl on Christmas day; I shoved sausage meat, cranberry and chestnut stuffing up its bottom, wrapped it in streaky bacon and braised it in the slow cooker before finishing it off in the oven. Was fabulous alongside roasties with rosemary and garlic, gravy made from the cooking juices and red cabbage braised in orange juice and red wine...

Actually, most of the holidays has been a culinary odyssey thanks to the clearance shelves LOL! I do the sales to fill the freezer on the cheap, not to buy stuff I don't really need ;-)

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Isand66

Very impressed that you were able to get Poppy to sit still long enough in a Santa suit to take a photo :).  Mine last about 15 seconds!  He looks like my Misty...they could be twins.

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Reynard

Poppy, Ian LOL... That's Lexi on the Christmas card - and she'll do *anything* for prawns ;-) Or cheese, for that matter LOL

Poppy (see photo below) is a very opinionated tortoiseshell who is slowly mellowing with age. We can do things together as long as they're on her terms. She had her 6th adoption anniversary on Christmas eve, and I love her dearly...

Hope you and your gang had a lovely Christmas too :-)

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PalwithnoovenP

I hope Lucy is fine now. Our dog, Pochi ate a whole fish with bones and once a plate full of chicken wing bones after an authorized house entry and that made us super worried. Luckily he passed them all without making a trip to the vet. Now we always keep an eye on him to make sure he doesn't enter the house without our knowledge, he was very lucky indeed.

Beautiful bread and nice presentation of all your creations. I love them all but I really can't take my eyes off the rugelach! From the description, this loaf has what sounds similar to a salt rising bread starter that I read a couple of years ago but slightly different. Thanks for sharing this breads with "somewhat weird" starters and your results. It look super moist and delicious and perfect for elevating sandwiches. I have to find that book in the library when I have time or even have a copy for myself while completing my baking equipment in the coming year.

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dabrownman

and everything even if well fed, fat and happy!  They really are descended from wolves who do the same thing:-)  Lucy is all better now but she scares the heck out of everyone when she gets into stuff.

This sort of like Salt rising bread except the salt rising breads I have made don't have salt and in most cases no sugar in them or potatoes - just cornmeal and scalded milk and held at a high temperature - 90-95 F.  The salt rising name came from the bed of warm salt that the starter was placed in to keep it warm overnight by the pioneer ladies of old.  Very crafty these ladies were indeed!  Clayton has a recipe for salt rising WW bread from a 1912 cookbook from the Ladies Aid Society of the First Presbyterian Church in Polson Montana.  These ladies ancestors were fighting off the Flathead Indians while they were making their salt rising bread.  Talk about multitasking:-)  He also has a more complicated one from an Ohio Shaker community too.

Glad you liked the bread and the rugalach - that dough was frozen for months and I am surprised it worked as well as it did.

Happy baking Pal

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alfanso

Maybe I'm an easy pushover, but I am constantly amazed at what you come up with, even if we all know that Lucy is the brains of the operation and as she dictates, you type.  The boule looks fabulous.

I tried my hand at rugelach for the first time a month ago, and although the dough needs work, as in I need to get better at it, the one truly outstanding element was the cherry-almond filling.  An absolute keeper.  Give it a try next time...

alan

For the cherry-almond filling:• 2 cups dried tart cherries• 1 cup sugar• 1 cup water• Pinch of kosher salt• 1 tsp almond extract• 1 1/2 cups blanched and lightly toasted almonds
Make the cherry-almond filling:• Combine the cherries, sugar, water, and salt in a medium saucepan and bring to a boil over medium-high heat; reduce the heat and simmer until syrupy, about 5 minutes.• Remove from the heat and add the almond extract. Let the mixture rest until it's cool enough to handle. Place the almonds in the bowl of a food processor and process until crushed, about 10 seconds. Transfer the almonds to a bowl and add the reserved cherry mixture to the food processor; process until the mixture has a jam-like consistency, scraping down the sides of the machine as necessary. Add the almonds back in and process for a few seconds, until all the ingredients are thoroughly combined. The filling can be stored in the freezer for up to 2 months.
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dabrownman

and your cherry almond filled ones sound great.  Nothing beats puff paste - except the filling of course:-)  That Lucy even amazes me when she comes up with these crazy ideas of hers even with an aluminum foil belly buster going on - doesn't seem to faze her much.  She was in the garage sniffing around the chain saw and anti freeze.  New Year's should be a thriller.  

Glad you liked the bread and 

Happy baking Alan.

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dabrownman

and your cherry almond filled ones sound great.  Nothing beats puff paste - except the filling of course:-)  That Lucy even amazes me when she comes up with these crazy ideas of hers even with an aluminum foil belly buster going on - doesn't seem to faze her much.  She was in the garage sniffing around the chain saw and anti freeze.  New Year's should be a thriller.  

Glad you liked the bread and 

Happy baking Alan.

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Isand66

So glad to hear Lucy has pulled through.  Fortunately my two monsters only like to chew shoes and furniture inside the house and the occasional newspaper.  Outside they are constantly forcing me to put my hand down their throats when they find a chicken bone that some jackass throws onto a neighbors lawn.

Anyway, I like the look of this one.  Shall have to add it to my list to try one of these days.  Another interesting starter worthy of trying.

Happy Baking, and my best to you and your family for a Happy and Healthy New Year!

Ian, Lexi, Max, Lucy, Mookie, Misty, Cosmo and Cleo too!