Go Tang Zhong Sour Cream, Seeded, Aromatic Sourdough Buns
After we had such luck with our last bun bake for hamburgers, that turned out to the best Lucy and I have managed to produce, we had another occasion to make some buns for some pulled pork that came from a huge 14 pound bone-in pork shoulder that we smoked for 17 hours on Sunday
Our last batch of buns scented with rosemary, basil, garlic and sun dried tomato here :
YW SD ADY Poolish, Tang Zhong Rosemary, Sun Dried Tomato & Parmesan Buns
Were used as the basis for these buns.
The big differences were that these buns were sourdough only - no YW or Poolish. Aromatic seeds of; caraway, anise, fennel and coriander replaced the herbs. garlic and sun dried tomato. We cut back on the the sugar amount and replace the butter with margarine since we were out of butter. We upped the non fat dry milk powder, cutting the milk and added potato flakes and cream cheese.
The levain % was dropped from 33% to 13% and the whole grains increased from 8 to 10%. This time we also included the Tang Zhong flour and water remaining after geletanization in the calculations for hydration that came in at 68%.
The other major change to the process was not to do an overnight retard of the dough. We went straight from gluten development to ferment to shaping and final proof all on the heating pad where the final proof took 4 hours.
The rolls were brushed with agg and milk twice before going into the 375 F oven and they baked for 10 minutes before turning the oven down to 350 F and baking for 15 minutes more.
For some reason these buns did not brown up as well as the last batch even though they baked longer. We have no idea why this was so. They had a very nice nutty flavor and the aroma was very nice – even better than the last batch. The crumb was open soft and moist.
The sour tang come through but was milder than usual probably because there was no retarded. They made some fine smoked pork shoulder holders for sure but we didn’t make enough of them to handle that much meat for sure – but we can make another batch of rolls later – a different kind too!.
Might as well smoke some Andouille sausage and chicken thighs with that huge pork shoulder and show a picture of the buns covering it for dinner.
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Formula
| Build 1 | Build 2 | Build 3 | Total | % |
Multigrain SD Starter | 15 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 3.41% |
Whole Wheat | 5 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1.14% |
Whole Rye | 5 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1.14% |
AP | 0 | 20 | 20 | 40 | 9.08% |
Water | 15 | 20 | 20 | 55 | 12.49% |
Whole Spelt | 5 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1.14% |
Total | 45 | 40 | 40 | 125 | 28.38% |
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Multigrain SD Starter |
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Flour | 63 | 14.19% |
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Water | 63 | 14.19% |
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Hydration | 100.00% |
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Levain % of Total | 13.03% |
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Dough Flour |
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Whole Rye | 10 | 2.27% |
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Whole Spelt | 10 | 2.27% |
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Whole Wheat | 10 | 2.27% |
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Potato Flakes | 12 | 2.72% |
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AP | 336 | 76.28% |
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Dough Flour | 378 | 85.81% |
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Salt | 8 | 1.82% |
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Water | 263 | 59.70% |
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Dough Hydration | 69.58% |
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Total Flour | 441 | 100.00% |
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Water | 326 | 73.89% |
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T. Dough Hydration | 73.89% |
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% Whole Grain | 10.22% |
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Hydration w/ Adds | 68.16% |
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Total Weight | 959 |
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Add - Ins |
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Honey | 10 | 2.27% |
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Olive Oil | 10 | 2.27% |
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Butter | 42 | 9.53% |
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NFDMP | 20 | 4.54% |
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VW Gluten | 5 | 1.14% |
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Cream Cheese | 42 | 9.53% |
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Anise, Caraway, Fennel, Coriander | 4 | 0.91% |
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Cracked Flax, Sesame Seed | 12 | 2.72% |
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Sugar | 40 | 9.08% |
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Total | 185 | 42.00% |
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Garnish of sesame and chia seeds |
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Comments
All I can say is "wow"...very inspirational post and the pictures were mouthwatering :)
Thanks!
We enjoyed tasting all the goodies with the buns too. Happy Baking Jackie!
rolls and smoked meats. Very nicely done!
Sylvia
will go with anything but smoked meats has to top the list - along with hamburgers, Glad you liked them - they were tasty.
Happy baking Sylvia!
Fantastic rolls DA! even the uncooked dough looks good enough to eat:)
That pulled pork is mouth watering along with those killer sausages.
i just ate dinner but now I'm hungry again!
Happy Baking...
half the chicken and sausages were gone by the time Lucy got around to take the pictures. The pork shoulder, pulled the next day for dinner last night was just,,,well, killer! Best pork shoulder but it took 17 hours at 225 F. Patience come to those that wait .....as does the spoils if the waiting was worth it!
You would like these rolls because they have one of your favorites creams cheese in them. A little bacon and people would start dropping dead in the streets just from the smell alone! Got a nearly white 70% SD bread with Toadies that were Tang Zhonged before half were toasted and also included - a first for Lucy to come up with TZ'ing Toadies. Toad.de.b must be laughing out loud at the nonsense he created!
Glad you like then and Happy Baking Ian.
At the risk of sounding forward....you have beautiful buns!
I lost 70 pounds eating SD bread:-) Well, it might be the 4 miles a day walking that helped do it too, or the better eating that included lots of veg and fruits or limiting maybe even possibly limiting the intake with portion control....But I'm glad you noticed without even seeing!! We have some proud buns around here...
Glad you liked them and Happy Baking,
Love your handle by the way, Lorilu1 must have been a real peach!
Well done on your weight loss. Walking is way under estimated in my opinion as good exercise. And as for the buns, gorgeous as always. A nice fluffy, but tasty bun is yet another thing I have to master! May I ask what egg washing twice does?
two things. First I think it helps to brown the buns darker and more evenly but, the big advantage is that, when using seeds, if you put the seeds on after the first wash and then wash them again - the seeds will not fall off - great glue!
Glad you liked these buns. They aren't as brown as the last batch for some reason but, being all SD they are just as tasty with the aromatic seeds, moist and soft. The key to these buns for me, is beating the heck out it with the mixer until window pane. This is what makes soft and shreddable enriched breads.if you ask me.
Happy Baking.
Now that is a useful tip. I won't be forgetting that one. Thank you.
Nice buns & Q Miss Lucy :)
you know how important a soft bun can be when needing something to wrap around all that juicy meat. It's been a while since Lucy smoked a really large, bone in, pork shoulder and the normal 13 hours didn't cut it at all trying to get it to 190 F on the inside. The buns are as good as the meat.
Happy baking Darwin.
expected, but where in the world did you get that andouillette from? Is it a graded one? has it been locally produced and how is the taste of that mean little sausage? Must be some French around your place