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Overpowering yeast flavour

Hello Everybody 

It does not matter how hard I try I cannot seem to reduce the overpowering yeast flavour out of my bread. I do like the taste of yeast but it seems every recipe I try  potent yeast notes overawe my friends and families palette, not to mention my own. I have started to use fresh yeast and have noticed that the flavour has improved but not enough for my liking, am i doing somthing incorrectly? So, can you guys offer my wife any advice. All hints and pointers welcome!

Yours imploringly

Dave Jnr   


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Too Much Yeast Flavor?

Dave Jnr, since I use sourdough almost exclusively I'm not the one to answer your question, but perhaps someone else can step forward on it. Perhaps your recipe calls for too much yeast? Can you give us some idea how much yeast you are using compared to the quantity of flour?

Susan


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If this is consistent with

If this is consistent with every recipe you've tried, and consistent across the different types of yeast, then it may be something in the process itself - perhaps too-short rise times, or only going through a single rise, rather than allowing for multiple rises before shaping for that final rise.

If this doesn't sound like what you're doing, I'd suggest radically decreasing the yeast and simply going through several steps of kneading & rising. That way you'll be getting something of the "sourdough" effect of growing your own yeast, and you'll also be reducing the quantities of dead yeast (see note at end).

I've been experimenting with sourdoughs "boosted" with commercial yeasts, at least partially for this reason, and have found that I simply have to allow for a longer rise time. It's not such a big deal to do, and it has the added benefit of letting you get the kitchen all the way cleaned up before you have to put things in to bake.

(Dead yeast is what's primarily surrounding your "active dry" yeast - it's why you have to "proof" the yeast, really: you're washing off the dead yeast & giving the live yeast inside each granule enough food & incentive & freedom to grow. You have less of the dead stuff in your fresh yeast cake, at least when you start off with the fresh yeast - after a while, your fresh cake dies, and you're left with dead, dried-out yeast, too.)


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Too Much Yeast

I had the same problem as  newbie....heavy hand on yeast...after working in commercial bakery I started to use SAF instant yeast exclusively and always make a sponge or preferment a bit....apparently the strain of yeast used in instant has a better flavor than just Red Star etc active dry type.  When I happen to be out of SAF I have used Hodgson Mill yeast which seems good for whole grains, pick it up at the grocery or Whole Foods.  That may help.   


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