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Benito

Apparently this bread is also known as tourte Auvergnate.  It is a 100% whole rye loaf and mine was made without any commercial yeast although I’ve seen recipes that use it in as a sponge along with the rye sour.  Those who are familiar with baking rye sourdoughs know that they ferment very quickly.  From building the first stage of the rye levain until the loaf is out of the oven only took 18 hours.  However, you’re also likely aware that rye breads need time to “cure” after baking so I think they are best if you wait 24-48 hours before slicing.  Based on my first bake of a 100% rye loaf I will wait 48 hours because I found that the rye flavour was more pronounced at 48 compared with 24 hours, and if you’re baking a 100% rye sourdough you want to taste the rye, no?

When recipes for rye say to flour the countertop or your hands, they do mean generously.  At the time of shaping I didn’t have quite enough flour down and was getting a ton of sticking.  Fortunately if you have your dough scraper handy, and of course you would, it is easy enough to get more flour under that sticky dough.  I use the word shape loosely because really you’re molding the dough into a boule.  Forget trying to create any tension, there isn’t the gluten of wheat in this dough so really you’re moulding it like clay.

Rye %:100%
Stages:Stage 1 sponge, Stage 2 sponge, Final dough
Leaven:Rye sour culture
Start to Finish:14-16 hours
Hands-on Time:25-30 minutes
Yield:Two 1¾ lb/800 g loave

Stage 1 sponge (Day 1, Evening):

Ingredient Grams 2x800g loaves 1x900 g loaf (0.5625) Baker’s

Percentage
Wholegrain rye flour 118 66 g 100%
Warm (105°F/41°C) water 118 66 g 100%
Rye sour culture 14 8 g 12%
Mix the sponge ingredients by hand, cover and ferment at room temperature (70°F/21°C) overnight, 10-12 hours. The sponge will have tripled in volume and be very bubbly.

Stage 2 sponge (Day 2, Morning):

Ingredient Grams 2x800 g loaves 1x900 g loaf Baker’s

Percentage
Stage 1 sponge 250 140 g 100%
Wholegrain rye flour 250 140 g 100%
Warm (105°F/41°C) water 250 140 g 100%
Combine the Stage 1 sponge and the Stage 2 ingredients in the mixer bowl, cover and ferment at room temperature until the dough has visibly expanded and shows cracks or broken bubbles, 1½-2 hours.

Final Dough (Day 2, Midday):

IngredientGrams 2x800 g1x940 g loaf
Stage 2 sponge750420 g
Wholegrain rye flour500281 g
Warm (105°F/41°C) water425239 g
Salt105.625

Combine the Stage 1 sponge and the Stage 2 ingredients in the mixer bowl, cover and ferment at room temperature until the dough has visibly expanded and shows cracks or broken bubbles, 1½-2 hours.

Final Dough (Day 2, Midday):

IngredientGrams 2x800 g1x940 g loaf
Stage 2 sponge750420 g
Wholegrain rye flour500281 g
Warm (105°F/41°C) water425239 g
Salt105.625

In the mixer bowl, combine the final dough ingredients and use the dough hook at low (KA2) speed to mix until fully blended into a soft, sticky dough that gathers around the hook but doesn’t leave the sides of the bowl, 5-6 minutes.
Cover the bowl and ferment at room temperature until the dough doubles in volume and shows cracks or broken bubbles, 1½-2 hours.
Turn the dough onto a well-floured work surface. Use floured hands to gently shape into a boule, then place boule seam side up in a floured linen-lined banneton or cloth-lined proofing basket. Cover and proof at room temperature until the dough has visibly expanded and shows cracks or broken bubbles, 20-30 minutes.
Preheat the oven to 445°F/230°C with the baking surface in the middle. Turn the loaf onto a well-floured peel, if using a baking stone, or a parchment-lined sheet pan.

Bake without steam for 15 minutes, then lower the temperature to 430°F/220°C and bake for an additional 15 minutes. Reduce the temperature again to 390°F/200°C and bake until the loaves thump when tapped with a finger and the internal temperature is at least 200°F/93°C, 30-40 minutes. Transfer to a rack and cool thoroughly before slicing.

 

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Kistida

We've eaten 8 of these Barbari breads in the last 5 days. Only thing is, both times I made these, there was a rush for dinner time, so I feel that maybe they were a lil under-proofed so they got very puffy during the bakes (or maybe I didn't press the dough enough during shaping). Also, I made them with onions and cheese on top!



The roomal or glaze used for this bread is amazing. I'm starting to wonder if I could use it for loaf breads or other bakes even. Much like making Tangzhong, this glaze is cooked until it's thick, then brushed on the dough once it's cooled. It leaves a golden, crispy crust that I really like. There's a variation of it using baking soda, I've yet to try.

Barbari bread (Nan-e Barbari)
Adapted from
https://breadanddreams.in/nan-e-barbari/
https://www.unicornsinthekitchen.com/sourdough-barbari-recipe/

Dough
100g sourdough starter (I used barely doubled starter)
230g water
250g all purpose flour
100g atta flour
5g sugar
8g salt
2g instant yeast
15g unsalted butter / ghee

Roomal / Glaze
2 tsp all purpose flour
1/2 tsp sugar
1/2 tsp light olive oil
60g water

Topping:
Seeds like Nigella, sesame, black sesame, caraway
I used some sesame seeds, Havarti cheese and chopped Vidalia onions


Chapati / capati / phulka / roti


These are rotis I used to eat at our neighbour's in the late 80's (how time flies) and each time I get some atta flour, I remember them. Nothing beats freshly made, warm roti :)

Adapted https://veenaazmanov.com/indian-chapati-whole-wheat-tortilla/

Makes 4 rotis (about 6-8")
200g atta flour
1 tbsp light olive oil or ghee
3g salt*
140g water

Another batch was made using my liquid starter, these were chewier.
100g ripe sourdough starter (100% hydration)
160g atta flour
1 tbsp ghee
3g salt*
90g water

Ghee was used to brush on the hot roti, before serving.

*salt: this is a reduced amount as I'm no fan of salty roti for breakfast. Also, the Sharbati atta I'm using has a light sweet taste that shines through.


Marbled Matcha Shortbread Cookie



Now, here's something I've only made once this year. Why? There's at least 6g of butter per cookie; more than a teaspoon of butter each. :D

Last year I made these with a lemony twist, and baked them as a sheet before slicing them mid-bake. And most of them were given away, thankfully.

For this batch, I wanted to see swirls of matcha in the cookie (I've been making and eating matcha boba pearls too!) and to make a small batch, like enough to keep us in buttery heaven for a few days,.. or a week.

The ratios I use for my shortbread are based on butter instead of sugar. The internet tells me the ratio is 1:2:3 for sugar, butter and flour. This makes ridiculously sweet cookie if I wanted it buttery.

So, here's my ratio for buttery, mildly sweet, airy shortbread cookies:
1 butter: 1.25 flour : 0.35 superfine sugar
1 butter: 1.25 flour : 0.4 confectioner's / icing sugar

Adapted from various sites including: https://www.recipetineats.com/shortbread-cookies/ and https://www.popshopamerica.com/blog/marbled-vanilla-green-tea-cookies/

Makes 30-32 medium square cookies
240g all purpose flour
10g cornflour
3g salt
200g unsalted butter, room temperature
70g superfine sugar or 80g confectioner's sugar

Flavouring
4g matcha powder sifted into 1/2 the cookie dough
1/4 tsp vanilla extract into 1/2 the cookie dough
    

Sift together flours in a medium bowl. Set aside.

With a stand or hand mixer fitted with a paddle attachment, whip butter with sugar until fluffy and pale, scraping down the sides of the bowl every minute.

Add salt and continue whipping for a minute.

Fold in or mix on low, sifted flours until just combined. 

Remove half the dough onto the counter.

Sift matcha powder to the half of the dough in the mixing bowl.  Fold (or mix on low) until evenly combined.

Add vanilla extract to the other half. Fold until all the vanilla is absorbed.

Divide each dough into 2 pieces. Roll each piece into strips of about 15cm/6” long, then twist and fold these 4 strips together.

Shape the dough into a log. Fold the log and twist it once again.

Place the log-shaped dough on parchment paper and wrap it. Flatten the sides to shape it into a square. Wrap the a dough with cling film. To help keep the shape of the dough, I used an empty cling-wrap box.



Place the dough in the fridge for at least 2 hours or overnight..

Preheat the oven to 160°C/325°F.

Slice the dough with a sharp knife into 5mm or 1/4” slices and place on a parchment lined baking sheet, keeping each cookie about 2cm or 1” apart (the cookie spreads a little due to the butter). Chill the sliced cookie for about 15 minutes, if they've begun to soften too much.

Bake the cookies 15-20 minutes, until the edges are golden brown. Let the cookies cool completely before storing in an airtight container.


Coconut Loaf bread with butterfly pea flowers and pitaya


I made a variation of my coconut loaf, this time with butterfly pea flowers for blue and pitaya puree for a pink colours.
Well, my pitaya pink disappeared, and I was left with a pastel blue and faint brown streaks of pitaya pink.



Oh, that was one scary colour combo! Good thing, it's an edible, fragrant loaf, I don't mind the missing pink hues now :D

okay, have a happy weekend!

- Christi

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Bröterich

Kimmicher, a large bun, weight about 200g, typical for the city of Reutlingen in Germany.

If you like caraway seed, you got to try this. The buns are truly fantastic.

The recipe is here: https://www.ploetzblog.de/2020/12/05/kimmicher/

I'll translate it into English if anyone would like to read it.

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justkeepswimming

My first babka! I am not counting the one I tried last week that was a complete, greasy mess that never did a thing. That one was a yeast based recipe that I think was faulty from the get go, and to date is the only batch of dough I have ever just thrown out. 

I used Maurizio's babka recipe. Until just a few weeks ago, all my bread had been mixed/kneaded by hand, as I did not have a mixer. After much research and some input from Mariana (thank you, Mariana!), I decided to go with a Bosch compact mixer rather than trying to work with a food processor. Ordered in April, and it just arrived a couple of weeks ago. After reading his recipe/process several times through, I dove in. So glad I did, it came out really good. 

Lessons learned during this bake:

 - I don't know if it's true for all enriched doughs, but this loaf did not grow very much in size or have such obvious signs of fermentation as my usual bakes. I was glad I had used a glass bowl, so I could see the tiny bubbles through the sides and bottom of the bowl. 

 - Work quickly while rolling out the cold dough and spreading on the toppings. In my warm kitchen, the dough started to proof and get puffy, making it harder and harder to work with for rolling.

 - Don't assume any particular step will work easily. "Place the rolled-up log on a baking sheet and place it in the freezer for 15 minutes" part took longer than it should have. The first 2 baking sheets would not quite fit in the freezer.

 - I used Nutella (thanks to Danny for posting how to thin it out and make it spreadable). Next time I think I will try to make Maurizio's chocolate filling instead. The Nutella tended to glom onto the knife while slicing the loaf, and I had to keep cleaning the knife between slices. I was quite proud of myself for not getting cut, lol. 

This was a hit for both of us, as well as some nearby friends we gave some to. You couldn't taste the Nutella, the flavor from the dark chocolate was more prominent. The coconut was just enough to give a little extra flavor and was a pleasant addition chew-wise as well.

Will definitely do this again, probably at the holidays. 

Pics:

Getting the filling ready. I froze the chocolate first, then just smashed them inside the baggie to get small chocolate chunks/chips/dust.

Filling in place, ready to be rolled up:

 

Proofed, coated with egg wash, and ready for the oven:

 Cooling. I sprinkled a little more coconut on top, then used the simple syrup glaze to sort of glue the coconut in place:

 Yummy crumb:

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Benito

I wanted to see how replacing 25% of the flour with whole red fife might affect the rise and the quality of this milk bread compared to my previous recent bake.  I thought 25% was a good place to start and if this is good I’d consider increasing that whole grain portion to 50-75%.  Whole red fife is actually a nice mild whole grain flavour without any of the bitterness I associate with some whole wheats.  Although it has good gluten potential, which you can feel while doing folds during bulk, it is fermentation intolerant.  I suspect this is due to high natural amylase levels in this particular grain so I would generally avoid adding any diastatic malt to it.  Now in this bread I wasn’t too worried about gluten degradation because I fully developed the gluten upfront and I eliminated the overnight cold retard also hoping to reduce any sour tang that an overnight cold retard might add.

I included the photo above to illustrate something I’ve learned.  When you’re placing the rolls of dough into your pan, if you alternate the directions of the rolls, it can help get a better rise.  I believe it helps, have a look at my previous bake and the current one today.

 

For one loaf 9x4” Pullman pan 

 

Ingredients

 

Sweet Stiff Starter 

• 53g bread flour 

• 24g water 

• 18g light brown sugar 

• 18g sourdough starter ~100% hydration 

 

Tangzhong classic 1:5 ratio

• 89g milk 

• 18g Whole red fife flour   

 

Dough Dry Ingredients 

• (252g) bread flour or 222 g and use 30 g to mix with butter

      · 108 g whole red fife       

• 59g sugar

• 7g salt 

 

Dough Wet Ingredients 

• 149g milk (increased by 10 g for the whole wheat)

• 59g egg beaten (about 1 ⅕ of a large egg)

• 67g butter softene but do not melt.  Combine with 30 g of flour to make easier to add to dough.

 

Total flour = 431 g

 

Total weight 899 g

 

Pre-bake Wash 

• 1 egg beaten

• 1 Tbsp milk

 

Post-bake Wash 

• 1 Tbsp butter

 

Instructions

Starter 

Mix the starter ingredients in a jar or pyrex container with space for at least 50% growth.

Press down with your knuckles to create a uniform surface and to push out air. This reduces drying and allows you to see actual CO2 aeration over time.

At room temperature, it typically takes 7-9 hours for this sweet stiff levain to be at peak.

Tangzhong 

In a sauce pan set on med-low heat, whisk the milk and flour until blended. Then cook for several minutes until thickened, stirring regularly with a spoon or heat-resistant spatula. Let cool in the pan or, for faster results, in a new bowl.

 

Dough 

In the bowl of a stand mixer, briefly whisk the dry dough ingredients, and then add the sweet stiff starter, separating it into 5-6 portions as you add it to the bowl.

Now pour/scrape in all the wet ingredients (including the tangzhong), with the melted butter last. With the dough hook attachment, mix on low speed for a minute, scrape down the sides, and then mix on medium speed for 15-20 minutes. The dough will seem very soft, but as you approach the 15-20 minute mark, it should not stick to your hands and should pass the windowpane test.

Transfer the dough to a lightly oiled bowl, form it into a ball, flip it smooth side up, cover and let rise for 6-12 hours depending on room temperature. If you refrigerate the dough, plan for longer rise times. See photo gallery for approximate dough expansion during the bulk fermentation.  I placed the dough into the fridge to chill the dough for about 1.5 hours, this makes rolling the dough easier.

Prepare your pans by greasing them or line with parchment paper.

Scrape the dough out onto a clean counter top. Lightly flour the bench. Press the dough into a rectangle and divide it into four.  Shape each tightly into a boule, allow to rest 5 mins.  Using a rolling pin roll each ball out and then letterfold.  Turn 90* and using a rolling pin roll each out to at least 8”.  Roll each into a tight roll with some tension.  Arrange the rolls of dough inside your lined pan alternating the direction of the swirls.  This should allow a greater rise during proof and in the oven.

Cover and let proof for 2-4 hours (more if you put the dough in the refrigerator).  I proof until the top of the dough comes to within 1 cm of the top edge of the pan.

Preheat the oven to 350F and brush the dough with the egg-milk wash.

Bake the loaves for 50 minutes or until the internal temperature is at least 190F. Cover if your loaf gets brown early in the baking process.  After 50 mins remove the bread from the pan and bake a further 5 mins by placing the loaf directly in the oven on the rack.  If you loaf is super tall like mine was, I gave it another 7 mins with the oven turned off to really ensure that the side crust was firm enough to hold its shape.  You can brush the top of the loaf with butter if you wish at this point while the bread is still hot.

After the bread is completely cooled, store it in a plastic bag at room temp for a week or longer.

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trailrunner

 


 


Will post photos as able from my phone. Didn't have time to make baggies today but wanted to use this flour !! So made pizza. A wonderful experience. Unlike any other flour I've used in 40 + years of baking breads. 

1 1/2 c warm water

1 tsp ADY

1 tsp salt

2 tsp sugar

2 Tbsp EVOO 

1/2 c RImacinata 

2 1/2 c T 65 

Stir vigorously , Place in bowl with lots of EVOO. Let rest for 1 hr. Take out and fold gingerly . Let rest 30 minl Spread out with a  dimpled surface on a buttered ( this is very important to use butter if you want the Detroit pizza rich crust flavor)  large thin cookie sheet. Let rise till puffy. Brush with EVOO and let it pool as if making focaccia. Bake blind crust  in preheated 500 degree oven 10 min or till lightly brown. Remove top with grated whole milk mozz ( important use cheese first to preserve crust appearance) then top with more toppings and last sauce. Bake 7 min. Yum. Hopefully pics to follow., 

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Jeff P

It's that time of year again! Cooler weather means back to the kitchen for more baking. I've been gathering recipes and trying some different breads recently, with mixed results. My rustic country boule was a bit of a let-down, and so I'm in the process of getting my sourdough starter going again.

In the meantime, I came across this recipe for white bread that I thought looked interesting.

800g All Purpose Flour 9g Instant Yeast 100g Fine Sugar 7g Salt 4 Eggs ( weigh 65-67g each with shell) 180g Milk 60g Oil

Initially the dough seemed extremely dry as it was in the mixer, so I added an extra 2 tablespoons of milk to smooth it out. In the video, the dough is split into six pieces that end up becoming 2 full-sized loaves. Also, the guy in the videos does not include proofing time, just says to wait until it's doubled in size. For me, it was approximately 60 - 75 minutes. I washed the top in egg, and baked at 300.

The result is a very sweet, soft loaf of white bread,  with a thin chewy crust. A bit soft for sandwiches, but very tasty with butter and jam.

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DGoldy

This is my first post as my bread experience pales by comparison to so many contributors to the site. I feel that I really needed to share this. I have been looking for help here trying to get some guidance on how best to turn my new cheap Chinese pizza oven into a rockin' steam capable bread oven. So, after trying every conceivable trick found on this site and others ( except the pressure cooker hack)  I decided I needed to do something to make my bread making life easier and get scalded a little less often.

I searched the internet and chanced upon a site called Vevor US which sells a relatively inexpensive sauna type steam maker . Stainless Steel, Auto fill, timer and auto drain capable with a coupon I found on line $124. delivered.

I got it hooked up yesterday and the results were, after a 5 minute preheat, a full oven of steam in less than 1 minute.

Simple is better prevailed and I used an old 30A RV plug labeled "for RV use only" LOL ..to get the 220v into the box.

I insulated the 1/2" copper pipe and ran it in through the back of the oven. No fancy drilled SS distributor pipe.

The directions say that the generator can make steam for an hour so I imagine I could have gotten away with a smaller version but the 4kw model I found on another site was actually more expensive.

I didn't look carefully enough at the details when I ordered it but this least expensive unit came with a control panel without the timer. The timer was important so I wrote them to see if I could order their other controller with timer.

If someone in the forum already did this and posted it and I didn't see it, I apologize. I'm just so excited about the results that I had to share .

This is the best work-around I could come up with and as we all know, for a home bakery, a real steam deck oven is just way too expensive.

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Slideslinger

I've been working on my ciabattas lately and I think I'm finally getting the knack. Let me know what you guys think of my efforts - I truly appreciate your feedback, it helps me improve my skills. This is a poolish ciabatta, loosely based on the recipe seen in this video from Kingdom Bread. I cut his volume by half, giving me 4 fairly large loaves.. As you can plainly see by my crumb shots, this was a high hydration bake. I guess I should admit that I broke a couple of rules along the way. First of all, I mixed the poolish at about 11AM today...but I didn't wait 24hrs. I didn't wait 18hrs, or 12 or even 8. I mixed the final dough at 5PM, using a barely 6hr old preferment, which had almost tripled in volume. It had a beautiful dome, smelled great, so I figured "Why Not?". Since I was mixing entirely by hand, I worked the dough strenuously using the Bertinet method, slapping it on the bench for almost 20 minutes. I built what seemed like some fairly strong gluten strength and put it in the bowl. Kingdom Bread's method called for 3 stretch and folds on the bench at 45 min intervals. I had to run out of the kitchen on a mission of mercy (my wife desperately needed me to bring her a coffee), and I didn't get back for 90 minutes. When I did, the dough had already expanded, and was pushing the lid up. I gave it an immediate S&F and set the timer for 45 mins. At that point the bulk fermentation was done, in my opinion, The mass had doubled, and there was lots of bubbles pushing up thru the surface. I gently pulled it into a rectangle and cut 4 slices, transferring to a well dusted couche. I proofed for 1 hr, as the oven pre-heated. As you can see, I allowed the loaves to cook very well, in the Forkish style. Tastes absolutely fantastic!!!

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